Hey, it's in chocolate that is otherwise OK for me. THIS IS IMPORTANT
Soy lecithin
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Soy lecithin
My physical therapist and favorite medical practitioner is trying to convince me that soy lecithin won't bother me. I know the only real test is my gut, but I'm wondering if you guys have any opinions. She has some research that claims there isn't any protein it.
Hey, it's in chocolate that is otherwise OK for me. THIS IS IMPORTANT
Hey, it's in chocolate that is otherwise OK for me. THIS IS IMPORTANT
No Gluten,casein,soy,eggs,yeast
Reggie
After five years of learning how to control my symptoms with diet alone and conservatively speaking symptom free for two to two and a half years I can unequivocally attest that soy lecithin creates problems in my digestion along with all other soy products. For a while I seemed to accidentally experiment with it on a regular basis until it was far easier just to eat as close to the vine as possible and avoid any possibility of running into it along with a lot of other additives that may or may not be culprits. It is used as an emulsifier in so many products. I learned to be especially wary of manufactured products labeled organic that still contain many triggers that I best not consume.
At the same time I can understand where the advise comes from. By all rights their is no reason that soy lecithin or other oils that many over the years have found best to avoid should be a problem.... in people with normal digestion ... of course many if not most of us do not fall into that normal category. I will stick with what works for me even if all evidence says it “should work”.
Thanks for the great question. Finding soy lecithin was a trigger was one of many steps that has lead me back to health and a new sense of well being .
To your continued recovery.
Matthew
After five years of learning how to control my symptoms with diet alone and conservatively speaking symptom free for two to two and a half years I can unequivocally attest that soy lecithin creates problems in my digestion along with all other soy products. For a while I seemed to accidentally experiment with it on a regular basis until it was far easier just to eat as close to the vine as possible and avoid any possibility of running into it along with a lot of other additives that may or may not be culprits. It is used as an emulsifier in so many products. I learned to be especially wary of manufactured products labeled organic that still contain many triggers that I best not consume.
At the same time I can understand where the advise comes from. By all rights their is no reason that soy lecithin or other oils that many over the years have found best to avoid should be a problem.... in people with normal digestion ... of course many if not most of us do not fall into that normal category. I will stick with what works for me even if all evidence says it “should work”.
Thanks for the great question. Finding soy lecithin was a trigger was one of many steps that has lead me back to health and a new sense of well being .
To your continued recovery.
Matthew
Reggie,
There are proteins in soy lecithins, but they have limited ability to create antigens, so your physical therapist is sorta right. Here's more than you wanted to know about soy lecithins:
http://www.westonaprice.org/soy/lecithin.html
Tex
There are proteins in soy lecithins, but they have limited ability to create antigens, so your physical therapist is sorta right. Here's more than you wanted to know about soy lecithins:
http://www.westonaprice.org/soy/lecithin.html
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Reggie,
Can you find some chocolate without soy? I don't know, I've never tried.
I'm on Asacol so I don't restrict my diet nearly as much as most do here, but I have always tried to avoid soy as much as possible. Not because I've noticed problems with soy.....just got really turned off on soy the first time I tried a soyburger years ago. I decided right then that soy was never meant to be human food.
I know it's really important to you, and I wouldn't be happy about possibly giving up chocolate either although I don't eat it every day. I prefer the milk chocolate so I have a horror of discovering that I have a dairy intolerance.
Love, Shirley
Can you find some chocolate without soy? I don't know, I've never tried.
I'm on Asacol so I don't restrict my diet nearly as much as most do here, but I have always tried to avoid soy as much as possible. Not because I've noticed problems with soy.....just got really turned off on soy the first time I tried a soyburger years ago. I decided right then that soy was never meant to be human food.
I know it's really important to you, and I wouldn't be happy about possibly giving up chocolate either although I don't eat it every day. I prefer the milk chocolate so I have a horror of discovering that I have a dairy intolerance.
Love, Shirley
When the eagles are silent, the parrots begin to jabber"
-- Winston Churchill
-- Winston Churchill
Back when I was trying different things and avoiding soy I could have sworn I found a chocolate that didn't have soy.
Reggie, as for the soy causing problems I'd say it depends. I'm starting to think that for me once I get the bacterial overgrowth sorted out (if I indeed have this) that my food intollerances will be no more.
FWIW once I get treated and I'm cured of this GI tract of mine ruling my life I will write something up to go over all of what I've found recently. There's actually a lot of it written here and there around this site but I'd like to pull it all together.
Hey, I was wondering were you ever tested for Bacterial Overgrowth? What did they find? I found a local GI Dr and practice that seems to be ahead of its time with regards to the problems bacteria can cause. The practice is Eastside Gastroenterology in Kirkland and I'm seeing Dr Levin there.
Mike
Reggie, as for the soy causing problems I'd say it depends. I'm starting to think that for me once I get the bacterial overgrowth sorted out (if I indeed have this) that my food intollerances will be no more.
FWIW once I get treated and I'm cured of this GI tract of mine ruling my life I will write something up to go over all of what I've found recently. There's actually a lot of it written here and there around this site but I'd like to pull it all together.
Hey, I was wondering were you ever tested for Bacterial Overgrowth? What did they find? I found a local GI Dr and practice that seems to be ahead of its time with regards to the problems bacteria can cause. The practice is Eastside Gastroenterology in Kirkland and I'm seeing Dr Levin there.
Mike
Hi Reggie,
I have been too afraid to ever try anything with soy lecithin. However I did adore chocolate and would love to find some without it.
Before I had to give up fruit and sugar I was making a fruit smoothie and I would add 1 T. cocoa powder, 1 T. maple syrup and 1 t. vanilla. It's no chocolate bar but it was tasty.
Love,
Cristi
I have been too afraid to ever try anything with soy lecithin. However I did adore chocolate and would love to find some without it.
Before I had to give up fruit and sugar I was making a fruit smoothie and I would add 1 T. cocoa powder, 1 T. maple syrup and 1 t. vanilla. It's no chocolate bar but it was tasty.
Love,
Cristi
Hi everyone,
I'm pretty sure that soy lecithin bothers me, too, and to my great joy I just found some dark chocolate at Trader Joe's on Saturday that is soy-lecithin-free. For the emulsifier/oil, it says that it contains canola oil and/or safflower oil and/or sunflower oil. It's delicious, though the package does also say that the chocolate is made on equipment shared with wheat, milk, peanuts, tree nuts, and soy. Maybe that's why my belly was cramping up today. "~
Beth
I'm pretty sure that soy lecithin bothers me, too, and to my great joy I just found some dark chocolate at Trader Joe's on Saturday that is soy-lecithin-free. For the emulsifier/oil, it says that it contains canola oil and/or safflower oil and/or sunflower oil. It's delicious, though the package does also say that the chocolate is made on equipment shared with wheat, milk, peanuts, tree nuts, and soy. Maybe that's why my belly was cramping up today. "~
Beth
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Hi Reggie,
I am soy intolerant. It is interesting to me that you should ask about soy lecithin in connection with chocolate.
I have found a dark chocolate w/o soy lecithin in it; it is German of brand name Hachez. The company makes several different dark (thus also dairy free) chocolates that are w/o any of my triggers (please, see list below under my signature).
Like Matthew I have been symptom free for approximately 2 years now by controlling my diet. I make most food from fresh ingredients. However, I enjoy having a piece of chocolate for dessert or just to treat myself to something that reminds of candy.
There is a Lindt dark chocolate on the market that makes me have diarrhea even though according to the ingredient list it does not contain soy lecithin or any other trigger of mine. Beware of the Lindt chocolates.
I hope you can find a store that carries the Hachez chocolate. I buy it at The Fresh Market.
Karen
I am soy intolerant. It is interesting to me that you should ask about soy lecithin in connection with chocolate.
I have found a dark chocolate w/o soy lecithin in it; it is German of brand name Hachez. The company makes several different dark (thus also dairy free) chocolates that are w/o any of my triggers (please, see list below under my signature).
Like Matthew I have been symptom free for approximately 2 years now by controlling my diet. I make most food from fresh ingredients. However, I enjoy having a piece of chocolate for dessert or just to treat myself to something that reminds of candy.
There is a Lindt dark chocolate on the market that makes me have diarrhea even though according to the ingredient list it does not contain soy lecithin or any other trigger of mine. Beware of the Lindt chocolates.
I hope you can find a store that carries the Hachez chocolate. I buy it at The Fresh Market.
Karen
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living w/o gluten, dairy, soy, corn, and yeast.
living w/o gluten, dairy, soy, corn, and yeast.
Hi Reggie!
I buy Enjoy Life chocolate chips at the HF store, that are gluten, dairy and soy free.
Then I make my own chocolate candy. I'll melt them down in the microwave and add walnuts, or almonds or coconut. Whatever I feel like adding. Drop them on a cookie sheet lined with wax paper and let them set up!! One bag makes pretty many treats to have on hand.
I haven't had any reactions from it.
Dee~~~~
I buy Enjoy Life chocolate chips at the HF store, that are gluten, dairy and soy free.
Then I make my own chocolate candy. I'll melt them down in the microwave and add walnuts, or almonds or coconut. Whatever I feel like adding. Drop them on a cookie sheet lined with wax paper and let them set up!! One bag makes pretty many treats to have on hand.
I haven't had any reactions from it.
Dee~~~~