You might want to check the tires on your vehicles if you own a van, SUV, pickup, or other light truck. It seems that a Chinese manufacturer decided to change the construction of tires they were making for export to this country, without bothering to tell anyone of the change, (IOW, they violated their contract specifications),and some of those tires are now experiencing tread-separation, similar to the problem that Firestone had in the year 2000. These tires have caused some fatal accidents, but a recall is not likely, due to the small U. S. distributer not being able to afford it, and the lack of a precedent for any Chinese company to recall any defective products.
They were sold under the brand names of Westlake, Telluride, Compass, and YKS, and some of them tend to fail at about half their advertised mileage rating.
Tex
Pet Food, Toothpaste, Fish - Now It's Chinese Tires
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Pet Food, Toothpaste, Fish - Now It's Chinese Tires
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
And we thought dependency on foreign oil was bad! I'm VERY concerned that we are becoming so dependent on said country for
F O O D!!!
Did you know that only 5 Percent of foreign catfish is inspected when it enters this country? Mississippi catfish is under much greater scrutiny, and is therefore, much safer for human consumption. Ask the editor of a national publication called Catfish Magazine, a mister McCall, I believe. He knows all about this business.
Of late, I have been reading labels on things like frozen vegetables, and noticed more and more a transition to non-American grown food, and most of it is now coming from China. Since I always try to get organic frozen vegetables, I was shocked to see that I can no longer find American grown ones with the possible acception of corn, which I don't usually buy frozen.
I notice that the international group emblem, the group responsible for setting the standard for organic food, is usually found on these products. (I used to always get them at Whole Foods, but have the same issue with the organic stuff now coming to other big chain food stores.)
It just makes me wonder if I can even trust this international monitoring agency and the organic label. I'm thinking that if the rate or depth of inspection isn't as good, there could still be a problem.
I may just go back to eating fresh produce, organic or not. Most at WFs seems to come from Calfornia, it seems.
At last most of the fish we eat is wild salmon from the Pacific Northwest, so right now, I don't worry about that.
I notice that most of the canned goods don't say where the food originates. Have any of you been able to find a brand that even states where the food is actually grown? If so, from where is what you've seen coming from?
I heard on the news that a sort of food fight between China and the US was beginning. They had blocked import of some of our goods as a retaliation for our removal of some of their tainted stuff from our food supply. I would rather not do business with people like that, but we've begun to get addicted to this cheaper food, and I fear that we will soon not have enough farming in this country to completely feed our own population.
A few organic things have come from Mexico for a while, but I think even those will be replaced if something isn't done, and quick.
I'd like to hear from some of you who have more time to read about such things. We really need to start being proactive to prevent this dependency ASAP, in my opinion. What shall we do?
I will soon be needing to replace my tires as they are already over five years old. I had planned on getting Michelins for safety. Any one know which are considered the safest tires nowadays?
Yours, Luce
F O O D!!!
Did you know that only 5 Percent of foreign catfish is inspected when it enters this country? Mississippi catfish is under much greater scrutiny, and is therefore, much safer for human consumption. Ask the editor of a national publication called Catfish Magazine, a mister McCall, I believe. He knows all about this business.
Of late, I have been reading labels on things like frozen vegetables, and noticed more and more a transition to non-American grown food, and most of it is now coming from China. Since I always try to get organic frozen vegetables, I was shocked to see that I can no longer find American grown ones with the possible acception of corn, which I don't usually buy frozen.
I notice that the international group emblem, the group responsible for setting the standard for organic food, is usually found on these products. (I used to always get them at Whole Foods, but have the same issue with the organic stuff now coming to other big chain food stores.)
It just makes me wonder if I can even trust this international monitoring agency and the organic label. I'm thinking that if the rate or depth of inspection isn't as good, there could still be a problem.
I may just go back to eating fresh produce, organic or not. Most at WFs seems to come from Calfornia, it seems.
At last most of the fish we eat is wild salmon from the Pacific Northwest, so right now, I don't worry about that.
I notice that most of the canned goods don't say where the food originates. Have any of you been able to find a brand that even states where the food is actually grown? If so, from where is what you've seen coming from?
I heard on the news that a sort of food fight between China and the US was beginning. They had blocked import of some of our goods as a retaliation for our removal of some of their tainted stuff from our food supply. I would rather not do business with people like that, but we've begun to get addicted to this cheaper food, and I fear that we will soon not have enough farming in this country to completely feed our own population.
A few organic things have come from Mexico for a while, but I think even those will be replaced if something isn't done, and quick.
I'd like to hear from some of you who have more time to read about such things. We really need to start being proactive to prevent this dependency ASAP, in my opinion. What shall we do?
I will soon be needing to replace my tires as they are already over five years old. I had planned on getting Michelins for safety. Any one know which are considered the safest tires nowadays?
Yours, Luce
Oh, and we are looking into getting Mother another type of wheelchair -- one that reclines and has a head extention. In our research, we discovered that the better chairs are made in Mexico -- they are more serviceable and apparently use standard parts. The ones that are coming from China are not as sturdy and more difficult to service.
The Mexican made chairs are designed by American engineers while the Chinese ones are not.
Sounds very similar to the tire thing you mentioned, doesn't it?
Yours, Luce
The Mexican made chairs are designed by American engineers while the Chinese ones are not.
Sounds very similar to the tire thing you mentioned, doesn't it?
Yours, Luce
What caught my attention when I heard it on the news.. about the tires was that they weren't doing a recall because the importer in New Jersey couldn't afford to do a recall! Geeze they should be out of business... !!! That they are allowed to continue to be tire importers with no liability is outrageous!
Just my 2 cents worth on the subject..LOL
grannyh
Just my 2 cents worth on the subject..LOL
grannyh
The sad thing about the importer is that it wasn't their fault, (except for the part about not reporting the problem as soon as they became aware of it). Their design specs were fine - the Chinese company changed those specs, without anyone's knowledge, or permission. Put yourself in the importer's shoes - whatcha gonna do in a situation like that? They had no knowledge of the change, until the problems started showing up.
After the lawsuits start stacking up, I'm sure they will be out of business. Who's going to buy tires from them?
Tex
After the lawsuits start stacking up, I'm sure they will be out of business. Who's going to buy tires from them?
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Hey, would you be interested in a government job? We sure could use someone like you to oversee the FDA inspection program.
Tex
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
They need WELL PAID private inspectors from the companies doing the outsourcing and importing to oversee the entire production of everything and the ability to randomly test the component parts/ingredients. They would still make a bundle on the items produced and they would be safe!
We are rapidly becoming a third world nation.. a dumping ground for outdated and inferior products.
When we lived overseas we found several instances of outdated products... stuff that was written off as "old" and supposedly destroyed. The companies in charge of destroying the stuff makes double bucks by reselling...
grannyh
We are rapidly becoming a third world nation.. a dumping ground for outdated and inferior products.
When we lived overseas we found several instances of outdated products... stuff that was written off as "old" and supposedly destroyed. The companies in charge of destroying the stuff makes double bucks by reselling...
grannyh
Since the "goal" is to create "One World", that's an inevitable result. There are many nations that we can't bring up to our level, so we will eventually end up at their level, instead.grannyh wrote:We are rapidly becoming a third world nation.. a dumping ground for outdated and inferior products.
The fact that Americans, as a society, demand unrealistically cheap food, cheap this, and cheap that, certainly adds fuel to the fire, too. The "Wal-mart mystique" has pretty much ruined manufacturing and merchandising in this country. Few people are willing to pay what quality costs, these days. Look at the price of tires, compared with 50 years ago, for example. The only domestic manufacturers that can prosper in that environment, are those that have a monopoly.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Things could be made here competitively if CEO's and Boards weren't so greedy. There is no excuse for them to make the money they do especially the ones who serve only a few years at outrageous salaries and then get paid megamillions to leave!
I can see compensating an executive well who actually grows a company and steers it through good times and bad..but the average work life of a CEO in a major these days is 18 MONTHS! Then they get more money and do it all over again someplace else.
I never minded buying seconds when the fabric mills were in the US. The quality of the stuff now made overseas sells for about the same price and is about the same quality as seconds were...
grannyh
I can see compensating an executive well who actually grows a company and steers it through good times and bad..but the average work life of a CEO in a major these days is 18 MONTHS! Then they get more money and do it all over again someplace else.
I never minded buying seconds when the fabric mills were in the US. The quality of the stuff now made overseas sells for about the same price and is about the same quality as seconds were...
grannyh
We're in 100% agreement there. There are a lot of overpaid people in this country, but CEO's are definitely the worst of the bunch, by far.
Tex
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
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Hear, hear to all of that. The same thing is happening here. It is difficult to even buy quality goods, especially electrical goods ,that have been manufactured in Australia. Everything seems to come from China & are definately inferior quality. Just as a couple of instances - We had a deep fryer, actually 2, that we had for about 30 years which were made in Australia. When we defided to live here permanently instead of using this place as a holiday home, we gave one to one of our daughters. That one is still going strong. The base leg broke on the one we kept so decided to buy a new one of the same brand (now made in China). In the short time that we have had it we it has packed up 5 times & they have replaced the cord & connection. The same thing happened with the same company with our 25 year old toaster. It even looks the same as our old one but the quality is just not there. Cheap & shoddy looking already & never toasts evenly.
More & more food is being imported from overseas. That is effecting the viability of farming & fruit growing. It is the same with seafood. So much is being imported from Asian countries. The source of this stuff is sometimes questionable as well.
Wonder just where all this is headed.
Cheers
Liz
More & more food is being imported from overseas. That is effecting the viability of farming & fruit growing. It is the same with seafood. So much is being imported from Asian countries. The source of this stuff is sometimes questionable as well.
Wonder just where all this is headed.
Cheers
Liz
Hi all,
Happened to see that I invented a new word in one of my posts on this thread -- "acception." Anyone have a clue what that could mean? Ha! I really need to audit my posts, but have so little time nowadays.
Please forgive the mistakes.
Another thing that might help the big corporations would be to not think in terms of every three months as that's how often I think their boards meet. One has to think in the long term, not just plan on showing a greater bottom line in the next three months.
Think this short term thinking to please the board members has got to stop. At least someone with good intentions could postpone gratification a little longer, and thus, turn a better long term profit with a better plan which if done across the board, might benefit all of us. Not sure what this has to do with the current topic, but just thought I'd throw that in. Perhaps the boards should only convene once a year?
Yours, Luce
Happened to see that I invented a new word in one of my posts on this thread -- "acception." Anyone have a clue what that could mean? Ha! I really need to audit my posts, but have so little time nowadays.
Please forgive the mistakes.
Another thing that might help the big corporations would be to not think in terms of every three months as that's how often I think their boards meet. One has to think in the long term, not just plan on showing a greater bottom line in the next three months.
Think this short term thinking to please the board members has got to stop. At least someone with good intentions could postpone gratification a little longer, and thus, turn a better long term profit with a better plan which if done across the board, might benefit all of us. Not sure what this has to do with the current topic, but just thought I'd throw that in. Perhaps the boards should only convene once a year?
Yours, Luce
