My hat off to you as well! You have such perserverance & tenacity.
I hope you can find an alternative "treat".
Hugs
Lori
I Seem to Have Developed a New Food Intolerance
Moderators: Rosie, Stanz, Jean, CAMary, moremuscle, JFR, Dee, xet, Peggy, Matthew, Gabes-Apg, grannyh, Gloria, Mars, starfire, Polly, Joefnh
Thanks everyone, for the sympathy, and the insight.
I'm not certain that the rice is the problem, but it very often seems to be suspiciously present, whenever I get sick.
Polly, those cookies are from The Gluten Free Cookie Jar, and from home-baked mixes that they sell. They are classified as Dairy/Casein Free. The ingredients are:
Rice Flour
Sugar
Dairy Free Margarine
Eggs
Chocolate
Baking Soda
Salt
Of course the sugar could be suspect, but that's an essentioal part of the recipe, and honey, maple syrup, fruit sugars, etc., are just as likely to cause me problems as sugar, if I eat any significant amount of them. No information is given on the chocolate chips, but I trust the owner of the bakery, as far as the GF classification is concerned.
My Enterolab test was negative for eggs, soy, and yeast.
I haven't tried any maple syrup in over a year, but at that point, van's waffles with maple syrup, or with honey, or with 100% fruit spread, made me sick.
Love,
Wayne
I'm not certain that the rice is the problem, but it very often seems to be suspiciously present, whenever I get sick.
Polly, those cookies are from The Gluten Free Cookie Jar, and from home-baked mixes that they sell. They are classified as Dairy/Casein Free. The ingredients are:
Rice Flour
Sugar
Dairy Free Margarine
Eggs
Chocolate
Baking Soda
Salt
Of course the sugar could be suspect, but that's an essentioal part of the recipe, and honey, maple syrup, fruit sugars, etc., are just as likely to cause me problems as sugar, if I eat any significant amount of them. No information is given on the chocolate chips, but I trust the owner of the bakery, as far as the GF classification is concerned.
My Enterolab test was negative for eggs, soy, and yeast.
I haven't tried any maple syrup in over a year, but at that point, van's waffles with maple syrup, or with honey, or with 100% fruit spread, made me sick.
Love,
Wayne
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Hi Tex,
Can you find out further info about the dairy-free margarine? In my experience, they usually contain corn oil. When I first went DF, I was given a tip that the best DF margarine for baking was Fleishmann's unsalted. It did work well, but it was 50% corn oil. Obviously, I had to stop using it once I discovered my corn intolerance. I hope you find the offending critter!
Love,
Polly
Can you find out further info about the dairy-free margarine? In my experience, they usually contain corn oil. When I first went DF, I was given a tip that the best DF margarine for baking was Fleishmann's unsalted. It did work well, but it was 50% corn oil. Obviously, I had to stop using it once I discovered my corn intolerance. I hope you find the offending critter!
Love,
Polly
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Hi Polly,
That's certainly a possibility. I generally avoid corn oil, but I've never been sure if it's a problem or not. After all, theoretically, it doesn't contain any of the corn protein, zein. I thought that I had settled the oil issue when I found that I could tolerate soy oil, as long as I don't overdo it, (though I don't normally use it), but then I found that I tested negative to soy intolerance.
Has anyone actually convincingly demonstrated that any of the oils can cause a reaction, (other than a problem with excess fat). I've always been suspicuous of them, but I keep getting mixed signals in my own testing.
When I use their pre-mix for the cookies, of course, I don't use margarine at all. I usually substitute olive oil, or peanut oil. I've even tried coconut oil, but that seemed to bother me for sure.
The amount that I eat, seems to be a major factor. Two or three small cookies are usually not a problem, but half a dozen or more, in a days time, can be.
Love,
Wayne
That's certainly a possibility. I generally avoid corn oil, but I've never been sure if it's a problem or not. After all, theoretically, it doesn't contain any of the corn protein, zein. I thought that I had settled the oil issue when I found that I could tolerate soy oil, as long as I don't overdo it, (though I don't normally use it), but then I found that I tested negative to soy intolerance.
Has anyone actually convincingly demonstrated that any of the oils can cause a reaction, (other than a problem with excess fat). I've always been suspicuous of them, but I keep getting mixed signals in my own testing.
When I use their pre-mix for the cookies, of course, I don't use margarine at all. I usually substitute olive oil, or peanut oil. I've even tried coconut oil, but that seemed to bother me for sure.
The amount that I eat, seems to be a major factor. Two or three small cookies are usually not a problem, but half a dozen or more, in a days time, can be.
Love,
Wayne
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Wayne,
Welcome to the rice intolerance club!?
I definitely react to oils. I've proved it to myself over and over. I think it's the way they process the oil. If I'm not mistaken, the oil is pressed out of the corn, soy, etc. I don't see how all of the protein molecules could be filtered out that way.
On the other hand, I believe that distillation eliminates the proteins as I am able to eat any vinegar or alcohol.
Rice is definitely an intolerance for me. Sucks! I haven't eaten any in a year and am chicken to reitroduce it.
My sweet treats include: Home made lemon aid (water, sugar and half a lemon squeezed), canned fruit made with sugar (raspberries and mango are especially good), and coffee with Hershey's cocoa and sugar. There are also two frozen Indian desserts that I get at my Oriental store.
I hope it's something besides rice, but it doesn't sound good.
Matthew,
For crackers I use potato chips, Bestmade and a local brand. They use oils that I can tolerate. I found a fish cracker at my local Oriental store that is made from tapioca flour, fish and palm oil. They aren't bad, considering that they crunch and the fish is very mild. I can also eat some Indian papad, made with lentil flour (urid flour). Watch out for the spice asafoetida because is has a small about of wheat in it.
I keep thinking that I'm going to try making crackers with potato and tapioca flour. I'll let you know if I ever come up with a good recipe.
Love, Jean
Welcome to the rice intolerance club!?
I definitely react to oils. I've proved it to myself over and over. I think it's the way they process the oil. If I'm not mistaken, the oil is pressed out of the corn, soy, etc. I don't see how all of the protein molecules could be filtered out that way.
On the other hand, I believe that distillation eliminates the proteins as I am able to eat any vinegar or alcohol.
Rice is definitely an intolerance for me. Sucks! I haven't eaten any in a year and am chicken to reitroduce it.
My sweet treats include: Home made lemon aid (water, sugar and half a lemon squeezed), canned fruit made with sugar (raspberries and mango are especially good), and coffee with Hershey's cocoa and sugar. There are also two frozen Indian desserts that I get at my Oriental store.
I hope it's something besides rice, but it doesn't sound good.
Matthew,
For crackers I use potato chips, Bestmade and a local brand. They use oils that I can tolerate. I found a fish cracker at my local Oriental store that is made from tapioca flour, fish and palm oil. They aren't bad, considering that they crunch and the fish is very mild. I can also eat some Indian papad, made with lentil flour (urid flour). Watch out for the spice asafoetida because is has a small about of wheat in it.
I keep thinking that I'm going to try making crackers with potato and tapioca flour. I'll let you know if I ever come up with a good recipe.
Love, Jean
Jean,
Interesting theory about the oils. I react to oils, too, despite reading that the protein is removed during the processing. You're right - pressing seems like it wouldn't remove all proteins. I am also OK with distilled products. Thanks for the insight.
Love,
Polly
Interesting theory about the oils. I react to oils, too, despite reading that the protein is removed during the processing. You're right - pressing seems like it wouldn't remove all proteins. I am also OK with distilled products. Thanks for the insight.
Love,
Polly
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Hi Wayne,
It's such a bummer!!
I don't know what to recommend - I don't have very much experience with anything at all. However, I think Polly is onto something by pointing out the chocolate and the dairy free margerine in your cookie mix. I was very sick when I last ate chocolate even though it didn't contain any of my other triggers according to the label. I have not had chocolate for 4 months now - I am somewhat tempted to test some Enjoy Life chocolate chips just because I know that brand is free of all my triggers. In that way I would know it is the chocolate if I get a reaction. Don't you eat chocolate chips w/o problems?
Since you are not soy intolerant (lucky duck!!) you may not have a problem with the dairy free margerine but I would try to figure out what it contains before eating any more of the cookies made from that mix - could be corn like Polly says.
I have stopped using butter substitutes long ago so I obviously can't recommend any brands to you. As for the oils - the only oils I use are olive oil and walnut oil. All other fat used for cooking is meat drippings. I do occasionally eat potato chips - I have found a small brand that makes a delicious chip with salt and I believe it is peanut oil - it is called DIRTY.
Before you completely write off the rice you could try and investigate the chocolate, margerine, and oils.
We love you too much to see you suffer w/o sweet treats - Jean had some interesting suggestions that I need to inquire more about.
Love,
Karen
It's such a bummer!!
I don't know what to recommend - I don't have very much experience with anything at all. However, I think Polly is onto something by pointing out the chocolate and the dairy free margerine in your cookie mix. I was very sick when I last ate chocolate even though it didn't contain any of my other triggers according to the label. I have not had chocolate for 4 months now - I am somewhat tempted to test some Enjoy Life chocolate chips just because I know that brand is free of all my triggers. In that way I would know it is the chocolate if I get a reaction. Don't you eat chocolate chips w/o problems?
Since you are not soy intolerant (lucky duck!!) you may not have a problem with the dairy free margerine but I would try to figure out what it contains before eating any more of the cookies made from that mix - could be corn like Polly says.
I have stopped using butter substitutes long ago so I obviously can't recommend any brands to you. As for the oils - the only oils I use are olive oil and walnut oil. All other fat used for cooking is meat drippings. I do occasionally eat potato chips - I have found a small brand that makes a delicious chip with salt and I believe it is peanut oil - it is called DIRTY.
Before you completely write off the rice you could try and investigate the chocolate, margerine, and oils.
We love you too much to see you suffer w/o sweet treats - Jean had some interesting suggestions that I need to inquire more about.
Love,
Karen
Well, now that I have finally pretty much recovered, I'm already running a test/challenge, and it appears that Polly might be right about the margarine. I seem to be able to eat the cookies, so long as I only eat the home-baked ones, which contain peanut oil, in place of margarine.
This makes sense, since I've never been able to find a brand of margarine that would work for me, I guess I just assumed that they knew more about it, and maybe had accesss to brands that I didn't.
I'm only in day two of the test, so I could still wash out, but so far so good. I think that I probably do have a problem with rice, but I seem to be able to handle limited amounts of it. The trick is figuring out what's too much.
This once again illustrates that we really can't eat processed foods. We have to make 'em ourselves. Sigh. I'll eventually learn. LOL.
Love,
Wayne
This makes sense, since I've never been able to find a brand of margarine that would work for me, I guess I just assumed that they knew more about it, and maybe had accesss to brands that I didn't.
I'm only in day two of the test, so I could still wash out, but so far so good. I think that I probably do have a problem with rice, but I seem to be able to handle limited amounts of it. The trick is figuring out what's too much.
This once again illustrates that we really can't eat processed foods. We have to make 'em ourselves. Sigh. I'll eventually learn. LOL.
Love,
Wayne
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Oh, Tex. (Wayne)
It is so sad.
I am very sorry for you... Please, do not get desperated. I hope it is something temporary....
Rice is one of my favourite food...
I hope you feel better now,
Take care,
Love
Tessa.
It is so sad.
I am very sorry for you... Please, do not get desperated. I hope it is something temporary....Rice is one of my favourite food...
I hope you feel better now,
Take care,
Love
Tessa.
DX Secondary Adrenal Insufficiency= Panhypopituitarism,POTS & MC. Anaphylactic reaction to foods & some drugs.
Gluten & Dairy free diet+hydrocortisone, Florinef, Sea Salt, Vit B Complex, Potassium, Sodium, Magnesium...
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