Study Shows that Celiac-associated Intestinal Degradation Ma

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Ok, this article just wow'd me. From what I read it seems that this might point to LC/CC/MC being a step before developing full blown Celiac Disease or at least be some part of it.

Study Shows that Celiac-associated Intestinal Degradation May Take Years to Show Up after Reintroducing Gluten into the Diet
http://www.celiac.com/articles/21473/1/ ... Page1.html

And here's what I think is the study this article refers to:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entre ... h=17303598
Long-term follow-up of 61 coeliac patients diagnosed in childhood: evolution toward latency is possible on a normal diet.
Matysiak-Budnik T, Malamut G, de Serre NP, Grosdidier E, Seguier S, Brousse N, Caillat-Zucman S, Cerf-Bensussan N, Schmitz J, Cellier C.

INSERM, U793, Faculté de Médecine René Descartes, IFR94, Paris, France.

BACKGROUND/ AIMS: Whether a life-long gluten-free diet (GFD) is necessary in all children with diagnosed coeliac disease (CD) remains debated. To address this question, a retrospective analysis of the clinical and biological status of adult coeliac patients diagnosed in childhood, who remained on a normal diet after gluten challenge and were clinically silent, was carried out. METHODS: Patients aged 18-65 years with CD diagnosed in childhood were included. Clinical status, gluten intake, biological parameters of malabsorption, bone mineral density, human leucocyte antigen (HLA) genotype, serological markers of CD, and histological and immunohistochemical parameters in duodenal biopsies were recorded. RESULTS: Sixty-one patients had resumed a normal diet and were asymptomatic. Forty-eight showed different degrees of villous atrophy (silent CD), while 13 had no detectable atrophy (latent CD) on duodenal biopsies. Latent CD patients had significantly less osteopenia/osteoporosis (1/9 (11%) vs 23/33 (70%), p<0.001)), and lower T cell receptor (TCR) alphabeta+ intraepithelial T cell counts (38+/-20 vs 55+/-15, p<0.01) than silent CD patients. The mean age at diagnosis and first GFD was lower in latent than in silent patients (14.4+/-5 vs 40.1+/-47 months, p<0.05). Latent patients did not differ significantly from the seven control patients on a long-term GFD, except for a higher frequency of CD-specific serum antibodies. However, two latent patients relapsed clinically and histologically during subsequent follow-up. CONCLUSIONS: Long-term latency developed in about 20% of CD patients who remained symptom free after gluten reintroduction. This latency can be transient and thus a regular follow-up is mandatory. In silent patients, the increased risk of osteoporosis substantiates the need for a GFD.
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Excellent! Excellent! Excellent!

You do good work, Mike. That pretty well verifies what most of us have always believed - that for those who are gluten sensitive, some individuals might get by with eating it for a while, and a rare few might even get away with it virtually forever, but for the vast majority of us, sooner or later, it's gonna get us, if we keep eating it.

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P S Hey, that post, (or at least those links), should surely be added to one, (or more), of the information forums, whichever one, (or ones), you deem most appropriate.

P P S After this topic "runs it's course" in this forum, I'll probably move it to the "Discussions on Treatment Options Using Diet, and/or Medications" forum, where I believe it will probably do more good for newbies scanning this board for help/information, (provided that I don't forget).
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Very interesting!:thumbsup:

Thanks for sharing.

Good idea to move it to the other forum, too Tex. :pulsinghearts:


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It's great to see this in print, thanks Mike.

Just say no to gluten, PLEASE.

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harvest_table wrote:It's great to see this in print, thanks Mike.

Just say no to gluten, PLEASE.

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Ha, no to gluten. I've been struggling with this lately. Part of me doesn't want to rock the boat so to speak, but the other part of me wants to try it and prove to the Drs that there is indeed something going on here that they seem to be sure isn't a cause.
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Hmmm... I don't remember reading this one before. One by Dr Fine from 2006.

http://press.arrivenet.com/health/artic ... 74687.html

And here's another slightly different version of the same article:
http://www.clanthompson.com/res_press.p ... pr&pr_id=1
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A link to the second article is posted in the "Current Research" forum:

http://www.perskyfarms.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3327

(on a different page at Clan Thompson's site), but I hadn't previously seen the original press release, from the first link.

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Doesn't this mean that even if a person could tolerate, say, oats without any immediate symptoms, they'd still be at risk long term. In my case, it's actually tapioca flour I'm now hooked on.

No symptoms today doesn't mean it isn't destroying your villi, eh?
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Reggie,

That's the way I interpret it. I think that's why it took about six weeks of eating oats, before it finally got to me. Apparently it can take some people years, before a prolamin intolerance lowers the boom on them. I think that this is the main problem with the recommendations by the "experts", that celiacs, (or people who are gluten sensitive), should try eating oats, (pure oats, that is), to see if they can tolerate oats. I suspect that most of these "experts" don't realize that we all have a different "time threshold", for sensitivity, and that eventually, most of us will find that we cannot tolerate oats, after all. We just have to eat enough of them, long enough, to make the symptoms obvious.

I find it interesting that you should mention tapioca. I love tapioca, and since it is rated as a non-allergenic food, I tried eating it while I was recovering, but I found that if I ate it regularly, it seemed to cause problems. I could get away with eating it once in a while, but not on a regular basis. I thought that maybe it was just a fluke, or I was just imagining the problem, but I stopped eating it, (at least on a regular basis). I had forgotten all about that, until you brought it up. These days, I only eat it occasionally, and without any problems. If it's not causing you any problems, chances are that it probably never will, since it's not generally classified as a "trigger" food.

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The last paragraphn in this article is pretty darn interesting. :)
http://www.celiac.com/articles/21482/1/ ... Page1.html
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Yep, I definitely agree with that, too.

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