Okay, this is what I told the guy that wanted to see me

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Okay, this is what I told the guy that wanted to see me

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Here is how it went, he was really nice, and we got along fine, BUT he was always away, off somewhere working, never available on weekends and didn't want to meet my family. He only gave me a cell phone number because as he was only separated around 10 months and travelled allot he would just stay at his friends house or his office when he was in town. He would call me when he was away, but not all the time, and never even told me when he would be going. So when he declined coming to a birthday party to meet my kids and family, I told him that everything pointed to him not being separated at all, and that he was still very much married, and I wouldn't have any part of that. He wrote me back saying then, not before when I layed out the fact that I wouldn't want to date him if he wasn't ready after his separation, that what I had said in my letter made him rethink his life, and that he had always held out the hope of getting back with him wife. So I said adios. So I was very much surprised to get an email from him once again, asking if I was still single, and that things didn't work out with his wife, and he had thought about me often and yadda, yadda, yadda. I wrote him and told him why I thought he was still married and why would I believe that he wasn't still just because he said so. And I thought he would just go away. Instead he wrote me back, explained himself. But I still was not sure, and so I wrote him again, asking him questions, seeing if he would answer my questions, and again to my surprise he did answer them. The only thing is that he still had not moved into his own place. He never asked me to go out, he just wanted to come here, and thought I would be just dying to welcome him. Now tell me if I am wrong, because most of you know how badly burned I have been in the past, and I just think that if you are separated and planning a new direction in your life, as you say that there is no question of going back to your marriage, ie. wife, that you have an apartment or something. Now its not like he doesn't have money, he has a great job, or so I am told. Works allot, drives a really fancy car, and dresses well. Am I being too cautious, I mean in the past I never thought you had to question a person's honesty, but now I just can't seem to believe just anything a person says. I question everything. I just don't trust at all. In my letter to him I just stated that the first thing a person does is find a place. Not having one after what is supposedly almost 2 years, is just fishy to me. I am not going to see anyone who is not what he seems. And it would be okay if he was having it tough, that I can understand, but putting on airs, nope. I guess the main thing is honesty, after what I went through, I can't have anything less.

But then I question if I am too harsh. He does know about my ex, what happened and so forth. My thinking is if he is a nice guy, then he will understand why I need this, if he is not, he will be upset and maybe call me something and I will never hear from him again. Either way it will be the answer that will be safe for me.

I wouldn't mind a man's view on this, my brother thinks that I am doing it the right way. I was not mean or anything, I just don't want to be played or hurt again.

Maybe this will mean that I will end up alone for the rest of my life, or eventually I will meet a man that will treat me the way I would want any other woman to be treated by her partner.

Advice anyone, or cheer me on. :wave:


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Hi Wendy!

I think you are perfectly correct in trusting your instincts on this man!
Somethng is fishy; married or separated - he leaves a lot of unanswered questions. I think you'd be better off not to invest anymore of your time or emotional energy on him. Adios, amigo - as you said! :wink:

This does not mean that you will be alone for the rest of your life!! You will wait and find a good relationship. I've been there myself, so I can speak from experience. Don't settle for less than you deserve!

I hope this helps.

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Thanks Alice, I needed to hear that.

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Hi Wendy

Those of us with gut issues need to learn to trust our guts. Sounds like you're on target with this guy. He need to get his act together before he deserves you. Love & light, Rita
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Hi Wendy,

I'm not exactly Abagail Van Buren, but I would be highly suspicious of the motives of any man who was reluctant to meet your family. That in itself, indicates a serious conflict of interest. A serious relationship would involve your family. By avoiding any contact with your family, he is signaling that he 's not interested in a serious relationship. At least that's the way I see it.

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Thanks Wayne, I like to get a male opinion too. But that doesn't sit well with me either. My daughters are my pride and joy, and of course they want to any man I go out with after the last time. And yes, if he was serious like he says he is, then he would want to know who my family is and so forth. I remember when my oldest daughter met her now fiance. The first trip they planned together was so that he could meet her family. He said he wanted to meet everyone that was important to her. I thought that was pretty cool at the time, and it let me know that my daughter was meeting a man who would treat her well. Which has come to prove true. And of course now he is also going to be the father of my grandbaby besides my son-in-law. Its really funny though because he is going to be 32 yrs old in December, and I am 45 this October, not much in age difference there. His parents are in their late fifties, and around them its very reserved, but when they are around me they can let go and be the young persons that they are. But I must say that they are wonderful people and treat Amanda so well. Whew, you sometimes worry about that, but they are great people. So it makes me happy to see my daughter with a good person. Now if it happens for me, okay, if not, that is okay too. I won't settle. Then of course their is my youngest daughter, who is gay, so anyone with me has to be comfortable with that too, as she lives with her partner, and thats different. Not everyone can handle that. But she has enough rejection from her own father, who rarely talks to her more maybe once a year. But she is one of the nicest persons you can meet, and you know that by the amount of people who are her friends, and the complete difference in ages of all of them, she is just someone you like after only meeting her once. Always smiling and happy, bubbly, hard working, I could go on. And her partner is a really wonderful person too, and a fine police officer. I consider myself lucky to see both of my girls with good people. And if I do meet someone later on it will be something that just happens, and it will be right for me because its the only way its going to happen at all.

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Morning Wendy,

Trust your gut on this one. 2 years and no new place to live strikes a real problem with me too. Always wanting to be at your place and not go out strikes another bad chord. DO NOT settle for anything less than #1. You have been through enough and have proved you can go it alone until Mr. Right rides in on his white horse.

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Hi Wendy,

I agree with everybody else--this guy's words and actions tell different stories. Who needs that? Besides, it sounds like it is a happy time in your life, with both your daughters in happy relationships and you are included in their families and friends.

When is your grandchild due? My first was born in May (she's my avatar) and when that happens you'll forget all about that smooth talker who's cheating on his wife!
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My grandchild is due at the end of Feb. I can hardly wait. Its so cute to see my daughter with this little bulge in her tummy. They have a picture of the baby already from the ultrasound last Friday. She is always calling me about this or that regarding her pregnancy, its so much fun. We are also planning a wedding for next Sept. so there is many happy things to do, I don't want anything to mar it either. My other daughter Mel is soooo excited too. Together we are going to be total nutcases when its time for the birth, let alone having an actual baby to hold. Mel keeps saying, " Mom, you don't understand, HOW seriously I am going to spoil this baby?" Well she is going to have to beat me to it, lol.

Thanks everyone for your advice, I feel good about what I did then.

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Post by Sally »

Wendy, my dear. I am so proud of you!!! You have really moved forward with your life in all sorts of ways and this is, for sure, the most difficult thing after what you went through in Alberta. I read you first posting in this thread and thought, "Hey, she's got it all figured out already!!" Good for you.

Yes, this fellow sounds really fishy to me, too. Whenever things get too complicated and you have more questions than answers, that is a signal that something is WRONG. If he can't make up his mind to go forward with his life like you have, he doesn't deserve you. Let this one pass and wait for the right one to come along. He will, believe me. When you least expect it!!

I love what you are doing and I love you.

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Thank-you so much everyone. This is new waters that I am treading, so it feels foriegn to me, but its inside that I am following now. I remember when I first met Dave, we were doing something at the computer and he dropped the act he had been giving me for less then a minute, and I had a brief glimpse of who he really was. He quickly apologised and but it bothered me long after, and I kept telling myself to forget it, he was just tired, or just this or that, any excuse to make it fit with the picture he had been handing me of this mellow happy go lucky guy. But you know, that was my gut feelings that were screaming out to me, and I ignored them. Because it was that one instant, of less then a minute that showed me what he ended up really being like each and every day I was there.

So yup, gotto trust that gut feeling. And I agree if there are more question then answers something is not right. And if the answers given bring up even more questions, well that is when you run to the hills and hide.

I still have not recovered from the head games he played with me, all the little things he would do to keep me on the edge, all the lies, and then of course in the end my personal belongings and stuff that he went through and stole from me. I still end up finding that still more things are missing time and time again. I found that I don't even have my baking pans, things he wouldn't even use, and most likely just gave away to his idiot friend for the women he lived with. But then they didn't have any morals either. I think it is going to take me along time before I fully trust, and until the fear finally goes away. I know now what he did was a form of mental abuse, and that will take longer to get over then any other abuse that I have went through in the past. But I am getting there.

Thanks friends.

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I am feeling stronger inside more and more each day.

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Wendy - I'll bet you had a gut feeling something was wrong and now you have a gut feeling you did something right.

Am I right?

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Wendy,

You did the right thing - he's a creep, no matter what the circumstances. Consider your options: A) he's a low-down dirty cheater who's probably got 5 other "bootie-calls" lined up for when he gets a night away from the wife for his very important "work meetings", OR B) he's a guy who is probably the one being rejected by a sort-of-ex-wife who is probably a lot like you no matter what he says about her. Neither of those things are things you need after what you've been thru. That gut feeling you ignored in the past is the same sort of sense he has for women who are too kind and caring, not to mention optimistic. He seeks out women like this to manipulate. Maybe this is his fifth version of the story he's told someone.. next time, he'll probably lie about wanting to meet the family, too, for awhile, just to drag it out longer.

Anyway.. like it was said above - you deserve the best. You are a very family oriented person, and you would want someone who loved his family as much as you love yours, to be sure he's capable of such a love. He obviously cannot even accomplish something that should come naturally.. I've been in similar shoes.. hurt by freaks who like to press your buttons and see what you do.. Hold out for something better.. "Never Settle". You'll never be happy with yourself if you do..

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Post by Mars »

I agree with what everyone else has said. A woman's intuition is the best thing to follow and I think yours kicked into full throttle! You will/do know what is "right" and avoiding your family is the best reason to say "buh- bye"!

You will know when the "right" one comes along, Wendy! There are some good men in the world and when he presents himself to you/or you present yourself to him, you will just know it!

I know you are excited about being a gramma and the wedding...put this looser out of your mind and enjoy life to the fullest !

Hugs to you...you're a strong woman and strong women always come out ahead!
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