After doing some more research and finding that Enterolab has verified that goat's milk might not be a problem in someone who tested postive for cow's milk casein intolerance, we decided to try a small challenge with Rick on goat's milk, so far he as had both the milk ( in gravy ) and some cheese and has had no problem what so ever ( been over 48 hours since he had it )...
Question...has anyone else been able to tolerate goats milk? Or is this like your case Wayne? And has Rick's system just healed enough that it is not bothering him? Before we did Enterolab testing, Rick ate cheese all the time and it never bothered him, neither did cow's milk in gravy, the only reason we gave it up was that pesky positive result from the lab ( 69 on the casein test, 10 being a positive)
Idea's and input dear PP family.....we are thrilled if he can continue to have some cheese off and on...but don't want to make the current normal of no D, but still lots of trips to " the room" each morning worse...
Hugs,
C
Goats milk and Goats milk cheese...
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Hi Carrie,
That sounds pretty encouraging. I doubt that Rick has healed enough for that to make a difference, though. It took me at least three or four years of healing before I could handle dairy again. I never did have the prompt, battery-acid D that so many other members experience, though, so maybe I was only mildly intolerant to it. My reactions usually took longer to develop. (I was never tested for casein at Enterolab).
I'm guessing that either Rick just isn't very intolerant to goat casein, or maybe he isn't very intolerant to casein of any type, and the smaller animal, (less casein), makes a significant difference. There are celiacs who are asymptomatic to gluten - maybe the same thing is possible with casein intolerance, (IOW, intolerance without symptoms).
I gather by your mention of Enterolab's comments about goat milk, that you've already seen these old threads discussing Polly's experience with goat cheese, but I'll list them, just in case someone else reads this, and hasn't seen them:
http://www.perskyfarms.com/phpBB2/viewt ... =goat+milk
http://www.perskyfarms.com/phpBB2/viewt ... =goat+milk
For certain foods to which we are only "mildly" intolerant, sometimes we can get away with eating them, if we use a "rotation diet". IOW, wait at least three days before eating the same food item, if it causes us problems when we eat it regularly.
Hugs,
Tex
That sounds pretty encouraging. I doubt that Rick has healed enough for that to make a difference, though. It took me at least three or four years of healing before I could handle dairy again. I never did have the prompt, battery-acid D that so many other members experience, though, so maybe I was only mildly intolerant to it. My reactions usually took longer to develop. (I was never tested for casein at Enterolab).
I'm guessing that either Rick just isn't very intolerant to goat casein, or maybe he isn't very intolerant to casein of any type, and the smaller animal, (less casein), makes a significant difference. There are celiacs who are asymptomatic to gluten - maybe the same thing is possible with casein intolerance, (IOW, intolerance without symptoms).
I gather by your mention of Enterolab's comments about goat milk, that you've already seen these old threads discussing Polly's experience with goat cheese, but I'll list them, just in case someone else reads this, and hasn't seen them:
http://www.perskyfarms.com/phpBB2/viewt ... =goat+milk
http://www.perskyfarms.com/phpBB2/viewt ... =goat+milk
For certain foods to which we are only "mildly" intolerant, sometimes we can get away with eating them, if we use a "rotation diet". IOW, wait at least three days before eating the same food item, if it causes us problems when we eat it regularly.
Hugs,
Tex
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Thanks for the input Sweetheart, I didn't think that he would have healed that much in only the 6 months that he has been GF,SF,DF...and since he never once reacted to dairy, that is why I decided to try the goats cheese option for him. It is just in a Italians DNA to want that cheese, ya know. Thanks for the links to the discussions about it here, I had found one of them, and the input from enterolab came from a post one of the Celiac boards....that is when I decided it was worth the risk, if enterolab thought it was worth a try.....
Either way, if he can enjoy a little cheese every once in awhile....life will be good. And there will be GF,SF pizza in our future once again...YIPEE!!!!
Hugs,
C
Either way, if he can enjoy a little cheese every once in awhile....life will be good. And there will be GF,SF pizza in our future once again...YIPEE!!!!
Hugs,
C