Hi All,
Got a new grill on July 3. We've cooked on it everyday since. I did brats for the family one day, which of course, I couldn't have. The next day I wasn't careful about cleaning the grill surface as I figured that the residue from the brats burned off.
Well, I had a bad reaction on Thursday (slept 17 hours straight and felt like I was beat with baseball bats). The only thing I can think of is the grill. Any thoughts?
Love, Jean
Do you think proteins burn?
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Hi Jean,
I'm sorry to hear about your problems with the grill. I definitely view a grill as a very risky source of contamination. I have a grill at our hunting camp, that I made myself, and everyone cooks on it, because they like the way it works. (I made it myself, and incorporated all the features that a grill needs, but none of the good commercial models offer, as a total package). One of the great features about it, is easily adjustable grate height, (which allows the distance between the coals and the grid to be adjusted over a wide range, just by moving a lever).
Anyway, I thoroughly clean the grid every time I use it, by starting a fire with a big pile of charcoal in the middle of the grate, using plenty of starter fluid. I raise the grate until the coals/fire almost touch the grid, (to get maximum heat), and carefully, (meticulously), burn off the grid in small areas, working my way across the entire grid, while the charcoal is still piled up in the middle of the grate. After all the residue is burned to a crisp, then I lower the grate to the bottom, and brush the grid thoroughly with a brass or stainless steel brush, to remove the burned residue, and then wipe it with paper towels, to finish the cleaning job. Since the grid is porcelain, it's pretty easy to clean.
I wouldn't consider using it without a thorough cleaning first, every time. I don't "know" that such a thorough cleaning is essential, but I do know that I don't have any problems as long as I'm careful, and I'm too chicken to risk skimping on the cleaning.
Yes, I think that proteins burn, but the temperature has to be much higher than just normal cooking temperatures--it has to be up in the burning range. I hope you're completely over that reaction by now.
Love,
Wayne
I'm sorry to hear about your problems with the grill. I definitely view a grill as a very risky source of contamination. I have a grill at our hunting camp, that I made myself, and everyone cooks on it, because they like the way it works. (I made it myself, and incorporated all the features that a grill needs, but none of the good commercial models offer, as a total package). One of the great features about it, is easily adjustable grate height, (which allows the distance between the coals and the grid to be adjusted over a wide range, just by moving a lever).
Anyway, I thoroughly clean the grid every time I use it, by starting a fire with a big pile of charcoal in the middle of the grate, using plenty of starter fluid. I raise the grate until the coals/fire almost touch the grid, (to get maximum heat), and carefully, (meticulously), burn off the grid in small areas, working my way across the entire grid, while the charcoal is still piled up in the middle of the grate. After all the residue is burned to a crisp, then I lower the grate to the bottom, and brush the grid thoroughly with a brass or stainless steel brush, to remove the burned residue, and then wipe it with paper towels, to finish the cleaning job. Since the grid is porcelain, it's pretty easy to clean.
I wouldn't consider using it without a thorough cleaning first, every time. I don't "know" that such a thorough cleaning is essential, but I do know that I don't have any problems as long as I'm careful, and I'm too chicken to risk skimping on the cleaning.
Yes, I think that proteins burn, but the temperature has to be much higher than just normal cooking temperatures--it has to be up in the burning range. I hope you're completely over that reaction by now.
Love,
Wayne
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Thanks Wayne,
I am over the reaction, but it was a bad one.
I think you're right about the temp and the proteins burning. I'm either going to be more careful about cleaning it, or not grill anything on it that I can't eat.
You also answered the question I had about cleaning the porcelain grates with a wire bursh. I wasn't sure I could use one.
How the heck did you make a grill!?! Did you fabricate it out of metal? Is there anything you can't do?
Love, Jean
I am over the reaction, but it was a bad one.
I think you're right about the temp and the proteins burning. I'm either going to be more careful about cleaning it, or not grill anything on it that I can't eat.
You also answered the question I had about cleaning the porcelain grates with a wire bursh. I wasn't sure I could use one.
How the heck did you make a grill!?! Did you fabricate it out of metal? Is there anything you can't do?
Love, Jean
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Hi Jean,
Yes, I made it out of fairly thick steel plate, so that it holds the heat well. Actually, my degree is in Mechanical Engineering, so I've always enjoyed little projects like that.
My old welder died, and when I bought a new MIG welder, I needed something to try it out on, so I decided to build a grill that would combine all the features that I liked.
And yes, there are plenty of things that I can't do. LOL. And a lot of them are things that you CAN do.
Love,
Wayne
Yes, I made it out of fairly thick steel plate, so that it holds the heat well. Actually, my degree is in Mechanical Engineering, so I've always enjoyed little projects like that.
My old welder died, and when I bought a new MIG welder, I needed something to try it out on, so I decided to build a grill that would combine all the features that I liked.
And yes, there are plenty of things that I can't do. LOL. And a lot of them are things that you CAN do.
Love,
Wayne
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Jean,
LOL. You say that, as if bearing a child is a simple trick, in the same catagory as building something like a grill. I have a hunch you can even outdo me on my own turf--like hunting and fishing. I don't recall ever catching a fish that weighed 16 lbs, for example.
This discussion reminds me of the song by Peggy Lee, "I'M A Woman".
Remember the lyrics?
"I can wash out 44 pairs of socks and have 'em hangin out on the line
I can starch & iron 2 dozens shirts 'fore you can count from 1 to 9
I can scoop up a great big dipper full of lard from the drippins can
Throw it in the skillet, go out & do my shopping, be back before it melts in the pan
'Cause I'm a woman! W-O-M-A-N, I'll say it again
I can rub & scrub this old house til it's shinin like a dime
Feed the baby, grease the car, & powder my face at the same time
Get all dressed up, go out and swing til 4 a.m. and then
Lay down at 5, jump up at 6, and start all over again
'Cause I'm a woman! W-O-M-A-N, I'll say it again
and etc.,"
You're just so used to getting things done, that you don't even realize all the things that you do, and how good you are at doing them. You can't fool me.
Love,
Wayne
LOL. You say that, as if bearing a child is a simple trick, in the same catagory as building something like a grill. I have a hunch you can even outdo me on my own turf--like hunting and fishing. I don't recall ever catching a fish that weighed 16 lbs, for example.
This discussion reminds me of the song by Peggy Lee, "I'M A Woman".
Remember the lyrics?
"I can wash out 44 pairs of socks and have 'em hangin out on the line
I can starch & iron 2 dozens shirts 'fore you can count from 1 to 9
I can scoop up a great big dipper full of lard from the drippins can
Throw it in the skillet, go out & do my shopping, be back before it melts in the pan
'Cause I'm a woman! W-O-M-A-N, I'll say it again
I can rub & scrub this old house til it's shinin like a dime
Feed the baby, grease the car, & powder my face at the same time
Get all dressed up, go out and swing til 4 a.m. and then
Lay down at 5, jump up at 6, and start all over again
'Cause I'm a woman! W-O-M-A-N, I'll say it again
and etc.,"
You're just so used to getting things done, that you don't even realize all the things that you do, and how good you are at doing them. You can't fool me.
Love,
Wayne
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Hi Polly,
I might have to give that some thought. The problem is that everyone and their dog seems to be making and selling grills these days, and since my design requires a lot more labor, (due to the moving parts), and is a lot heavier than most grills the same size, it would be tough to compete on price--it would have to be a high end item.
Of course, it would have to be a limited production item, anyway, so it might work, if I could figure out how to market them--freight is a major expense for heavy, ackward items like that. Hmmmmmmm. Maybe this is something to look into in my spare time, one of these days. LOL.
Love,
Wayne
I might have to give that some thought. The problem is that everyone and their dog seems to be making and selling grills these days, and since my design requires a lot more labor, (due to the moving parts), and is a lot heavier than most grills the same size, it would be tough to compete on price--it would have to be a high end item.
Of course, it would have to be a limited production item, anyway, so it might work, if I could figure out how to market them--freight is a major expense for heavy, ackward items like that. Hmmmmmmm. Maybe this is something to look into in my spare time, one of these days. LOL.
Love,
Wayne
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Gosh, Wayne, you can even remember the words to that song!!! And who sang it!!
It's one of my favorites, but I must admit I have had a wee bit of trouble keeping up with Peggy Lee. I've been known to grease my face and powder the car, doncha know?
Lots of love,
Sally
It's one of my favorites, but I must admit I have had a wee bit of trouble keeping up with Peggy Lee. I've been known to grease my face and powder the car, doncha know?
Lots of love,
Sally
Mitakuye oyasin
(Lakota for "We are all related")
(Lakota for "We are all related")