How Do I Know if I'm Multiply Intolerant?

Polly · Post by **Polly** » Mon Jan 26, 2009 8:48 am

Good question, right?

Here are possible answers:

1. Remission does not occur after eliminating gluten or gluten/dairy for a reasonable amount of time. It is difficult to define "reasonable" since it varies from person to person - it's related to how much damage the gut has already sustained and factors like whether or not medication is also being used and how quickly one is able to completely eliminate gluten from the diet. Usually it takes at least some months to see success after eliminating gluten or gluten/dairy.

2. Problems (diarrhea, bloating, fatigue, etc.) recur after a period of time of successful GF or GF/DF dieting. We have found that it is possible to develop new intolerances over time.

3. You have a "double DQ" gene pattern, like "double DQ1" (that's mine!). I found this out through Dr.Fine's genetic tesing. Apparently those with this pattern are much more likely to have multiple intolerances.

Polly

JLH · Post by **JLH** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 2:17 pm

Is an MI considered to be over one (gluten) intolerance or over the top three (gluten, casein, and soy)?

Polly · Post by **Polly** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 7:29 am

Hiya Joan!

Good question! I don't think we ever actually defined this. We coined the phrase "multiply intolerant" so I guess it's OK to further define it.

Strictly speaking, does multiple mean more than one? Or two? Does anyone know the definition of multiple? If it means more than one, then anything other than gluten would be M.I.

Practically speaking. we could divide between gluten and dairy and everything else, since GF/DF so often seem to go together. That would mean 3 or more for M.I.

What do y'all think?

Love,

Polly

Post by **tex** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 9:27 am

According to Webster, the definition of "multiple" is:

consisting of, having, or involving several or many individuals, parts, elements, relations, etc.; manifold

The definition of "several" is:

being more than two but fewer than many in number or kind

Thus, having three or more intolerances would be "multiply-intolerant", just as Polly suggested.

Tex

Courtney · Post by **Courtney** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 11:49 am

I would say it makes sense to consider anything past the main 2 (Gluten and Dairy/Casein) to be MI. Practically, there are a lot of recipes, cookbooks, etc, out there for GF/CF, and it's a lot easier to find convenience foods that don't include those. Add anything else into the mix, though, and it becomes much more difficult.

Just my 2 cents.

Courtney

Nancy · Post by **Nancy** » Wed Jun 08, 2011 12:07 pm

Does your test result say "Double DQ1"? My test result says HLA-DQ 2,3 (Subtype 2,7)

TooManyHats · Post by **TooManyHats** » Wed Jun 08, 2011 1:28 pm

Personally, I would consider multiply intolerant to mean anything more than gluten, dairy, and soy.

When I was first told to avoid all 3 of those I was horrified thinking how could I possibly eat??? Now? I think that would be a breeze.

Gloria · Post by **Gloria** » Wed Jun 08, 2011 2:40 pm

Arlene,

Gloria

Post by **tex** » Wed Jun 08, 2011 8:37 pm

Nancy,

A double DQ1 test result would appear this way:

Serologic equivalent: HLA-DQ 1,1 (Subtype X,X)

You can review Polly's results, and results for many of us in the listing at this link:

http://www.perskyfarms.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=10084

Tex

polly890 · Post by **polly890** » Sat Oct 29, 2011 8:52 am

I completely agree with Courtney. I'm allergic to gluten, corn and rice. So many gluten-free foods contain corn and rice as a substitute. That's my definition of multiply intolerant and it makes purchasing pre-made or packaged food quite difficult. At least it cuts down on the processed foods that I eat and forces me to eat very naturally, which, of course, keeps me healthier and limits what I have to use in my HSA.