Last night I had a couple glasses of red wine with dinner..I have just spent 10 minutes with horrible cramping and in the bathroom pretty much "emptying out"
does red wine make mc worse?? Im also in a flare up for the last week.. been a very stressful week for me..so Ive been in a flare for 8 days now...
thanks in advance!
Brenda
Does red wine "hurt"
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Hi Brenda,
I absolutely love red wine but with the onset of CC I found I could no longer drink it for the same reasons as you explained. Have tried it a couple of times since the beginning and have always had the same results. Some said it was the tannins in the wine but who knows with this disease.
Love, Maggie
I absolutely love red wine but with the onset of CC I found I could no longer drink it for the same reasons as you explained. Have tried it a couple of times since the beginning and have always had the same results. Some said it was the tannins in the wine but who knows with this disease.
Love, Maggie
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Hi Brenda,
Sorry to hear about the flair. I hope it lets up pretty soon.
That's a tough question to answer, because wine should not contain any of the common intolerances, such as gluten, dairy, soy, etc. It does contain sulfites, however, and quite a few members seem to be sensitive to sulfites. Not only does wine contain sulfites naturally, but some manufacturers also add more sulfites during processing, to act as a preservative. There is no such thing as truly sulfite-free wine, but if it contains less than 10 parts per million, (10 ppm), of sulfite, the labeling law allows the manufacturer to label the product as sulfite-free. Some of the organic wines do not have sulfites added during manufacturing, and if you check the labels, you may be able to find some with very low amounts of sulfites, that you may be able to drink without problems. Just remember that even if the label says sulfite-fee, it actually means low-sulfite. Drinking less of it may help, also.
As Maggie mentioned, it could be something else, also, since we are all different in the way we react to various products.
When I was healing, I had the same problem with Welch's 100% grape juice, (diluted 50-50 with club soda, as per Polly's recipe). I could drink about 16 ounces of the blend, (IOW, about 8 ounces of grape juice), without any problems, but if I drank twice as much, it made me sick. I have no way of being sure, but I suspect that it was due to sulfites in the grape juice. To this day, if I eat more than a few grapes, they give me D.
Of course, if you're already in a flare, it may just be a coincidence, and something else could have caused the cramping. Sometimes it's tough to figure out what's actually causing problems and what's not, especially if we are already reacting.
Tex
Sorry to hear about the flair. I hope it lets up pretty soon.
That's a tough question to answer, because wine should not contain any of the common intolerances, such as gluten, dairy, soy, etc. It does contain sulfites, however, and quite a few members seem to be sensitive to sulfites. Not only does wine contain sulfites naturally, but some manufacturers also add more sulfites during processing, to act as a preservative. There is no such thing as truly sulfite-free wine, but if it contains less than 10 parts per million, (10 ppm), of sulfite, the labeling law allows the manufacturer to label the product as sulfite-free. Some of the organic wines do not have sulfites added during manufacturing, and if you check the labels, you may be able to find some with very low amounts of sulfites, that you may be able to drink without problems. Just remember that even if the label says sulfite-fee, it actually means low-sulfite. Drinking less of it may help, also.
As Maggie mentioned, it could be something else, also, since we are all different in the way we react to various products.
When I was healing, I had the same problem with Welch's 100% grape juice, (diluted 50-50 with club soda, as per Polly's recipe). I could drink about 16 ounces of the blend, (IOW, about 8 ounces of grape juice), without any problems, but if I drank twice as much, it made me sick. I have no way of being sure, but I suspect that it was due to sulfites in the grape juice. To this day, if I eat more than a few grapes, they give me D.
Of course, if you're already in a flare, it may just be a coincidence, and something else could have caused the cramping. Sometimes it's tough to figure out what's actually causing problems and what's not, especially if we are already reacting.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Hi Brenda,
I find when I drink more than 1 bottle, my head hurts very much.
Seriously, I am fond a bit of red (or white) and have never found a connection between drinking and MC symptoms. Different wines do have different levels of sulphites, so if you are sensitive to those it may be wise to avoid that brand for a while. Some wines can also be 'fined' with dairy, eggs or fish products as part of the clarification process. Have still never had a problem.
All up, it's a reason to drink good wine.
I do tend to avoid alcohol when I am reacting, as I don't think it helps my body to heal. And if you aren't eating much, red wine can give you a fright when you check the contents of the loo!!
Sorry to hear you are having a bad time.
Lyn
I find when I drink more than 1 bottle, my head hurts very much.
Seriously, I am fond a bit of red (or white) and have never found a connection between drinking and MC symptoms. Different wines do have different levels of sulphites, so if you are sensitive to those it may be wise to avoid that brand for a while. Some wines can also be 'fined' with dairy, eggs or fish products as part of the clarification process. Have still never had a problem.
All up, it's a reason to drink good wine.
I do tend to avoid alcohol when I am reacting, as I don't think it helps my body to heal. And if you aren't eating much, red wine can give you a fright when you check the contents of the loo!!
Sorry to hear you are having a bad time.
Lyn
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I've been told that if you have a hard time with red wine, it's the histamines that are bothering you; and if white wine bothers you, it's the sulfites. But all wine has sulfites, it's just that white wine has more. I think that the more your intestines are inflamed, the more any food may aggravate the situation.
For me, wine made from one variety of grape, rather than a mix, is better - so I only drank pino noir for a long time (sorry that doesn't look like it's spelled right), only French, and higher quality (if you can call $15 or more a bottle higher). I can't afford $30+ a bottle. After getting sick a few times, I stumbled onto what worked for me, and got a little superstitious about my wine preferences! Now that my stomach is better, I can drink white wine, but I still think imported winemakers do something different that makes the wine easier on the tummy. (My other favorite is is a German reisling)
Sorry, I hope you find wine that agrees with you, it's one of those fun things in life.
Marsha
For me, wine made from one variety of grape, rather than a mix, is better - so I only drank pino noir for a long time (sorry that doesn't look like it's spelled right), only French, and higher quality (if you can call $15 or more a bottle higher). I can't afford $30+ a bottle. After getting sick a few times, I stumbled onto what worked for me, and got a little superstitious about my wine preferences! Now that my stomach is better, I can drink white wine, but I still think imported winemakers do something different that makes the wine easier on the tummy. (My other favorite is is a German reisling)
Sorry, I hope you find wine that agrees with you, it's one of those fun things in life.
Marsha
I wasn't aware of that. I suppose that's why I seem to be more sensitive to white grapes than red ones.Marsha wrote:But all wine has sulfites, it's just that white wine has more.
Thanks.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
I don't have the names off hand, but somewhere there is a list of wines that do have gluten added to them....I remember seeing it while doing some research...I also remember seeing an article while doing research that said that some wines can sometimes be contaminated with gluten during aging (some companies may reuse the wood barrels)
I'll try to backtrack and find the data....
Carrie
I'll try to backtrack and find the data....
Carrie
This was not the original article I found, but talks about the same problems with gluten in wine....
http://www.zomzaa.com/en/gluten-free-wi ... it-matter/
C
http://www.zomzaa.com/en/gluten-free-wi ... it-matter/
C
Hmmmm. The numbers involved seem to be an interesting coincidence, namely 200 mg/liter maximum. 200 mg/L amounts to exactly 200 parts per million, (ppm), which, for many years, just happened to be the maximum allowable limit for gluten, in a product that could be labeled as gluten-free, (according to the old Codex Alimentarius standards, used for many years in Europe). That 200 ppm limit has recently been revised to 20 ppm, (following research by Dr. Fasano, and others, who clearly demonstrated that the old limit was way too high for many celiacs).
Therefore, up until recently, those alcohol products were legally gluten-free. Since the rules of the game have now been changed, though, it will be interesting to see how soon this "glitch" comes under careful scrutiny by the celiac community.
Thanks for the link.
Tex
Therefore, up until recently, those alcohol products were legally gluten-free. Since the rules of the game have now been changed, though, it will be interesting to see how soon this "glitch" comes under careful scrutiny by the celiac community.
Thanks for the link.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.