Up To Date Information On The CDC Swine Flu Investigation
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Shirley,
Please don't worry about this. All of this is apparently denied by most doctors, anyway.
Love,
Tex
Please don't worry about this. All of this is apparently denied by most doctors, anyway.
Love,
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Aw, I'll be OK, Tex. Thanks. There is nothing to do about it anyway. I'm too deep into the current dental work to reverse it or even call a halt. I don't normally worry about stuff I can't do anything about and I think this is going to fit into that catagory.
Love, Shirley
Love, Shirley
When the eagles are silent, the parrots begin to jabber"
-- Winston Churchill
-- Winston Churchill
I'm so sorry guys! I wasn't trying to scare anyone. I certainly wouldn't recommend people go yanking teeth out just yet, either. The field of biological dentistry is certainly a controversial one among physicians and dentists alike. I still think they have some very interesting information though. I am going to have mine removed, but I only have one and it's in a place where it would be easy to make a bridge for it, plus, I'm going to have a lot of my dental work replaced anyway for other reasons (also controversial). So it wouldn't be too big a deal to me to lose one tooth.
My symptoms did not start until 7 yrs after I had my RC done, so I can't say whether or not it's a potential cause for me. It could be that there is a pathogen associated with it and it didn't really "hit" me until I had some major stress, which I did at the time. Could of been stress alone for all I know. There's all these "coulda beens" when trying to figure out causes for things that very little is known about to begin with. Fascinating, but certainly frustrating.
Back to cytokine storms for a minute: Anyone know if there are drugs and supplements we can use if one started to stop it? What about detection of a CS before it gets out of hand, can that be done? Thanks!
Shonda
My symptoms did not start until 7 yrs after I had my RC done, so I can't say whether or not it's a potential cause for me. It could be that there is a pathogen associated with it and it didn't really "hit" me until I had some major stress, which I did at the time. Could of been stress alone for all I know. There's all these "coulda beens" when trying to figure out causes for things that very little is known about to begin with. Fascinating, but certainly frustrating.
Back to cytokine storms for a minute: Anyone know if there are drugs and supplements we can use if one started to stop it? What about detection of a CS before it gets out of hand, can that be done? Thanks!
Shonda
Shonda,
Don't apologize for bringing up a topic. I think I over-reacted because I am in the midst of really extensive dental work plus I have always had "problem teeth". Also, there have been a number of changes in my life during the past year which has left me a little "off balance" so I think I tend to react to things differently than I did before.
Please feel free to discuss whatever happens to come up. I really mean that.
Love, Shirley
Don't apologize for bringing up a topic. I think I over-reacted because I am in the midst of really extensive dental work plus I have always had "problem teeth". Also, there have been a number of changes in my life during the past year which has left me a little "off balance" so I think I tend to react to things differently than I did before.
Please feel free to discuss whatever happens to come up. I really mean that.
Love, Shirley
When the eagles are silent, the parrots begin to jabber"
-- Winston Churchill
-- Winston Churchill
I know absolutely nothing about this - maybe it's time to start researching it, though.Shonda wrote:Back to cytokine storms for a minute: Anyone know if there are drugs and supplements we can use if one started to stop it? What about detection of a CS before it gets out of hand, can that be done? Thanks!
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Shonda,
The obvious option for treatment would be immune system suppressants, but based on the info in Wikipedia, it appears that the corticosteroids would be largely ineffective, leaving the anti-TNF meds as the most effective, currently-available tool, for preventing a cytokine storm. The probem is, though, with the weakened immune system that these meds create, opportunistic infections would be a very high risk, during a flu pandemic, which might be just as dangerous as the flu itself, (or even more so). Also, they are extremely expensive. During a "normal" flu epidemic, most people die of complications, rather than the flu itself, don't they? That risk would still exist, with the most virulent strains, also, and would probably be amplified.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cytokine_storm
Tex
The obvious option for treatment would be immune system suppressants, but based on the info in Wikipedia, it appears that the corticosteroids would be largely ineffective, leaving the anti-TNF meds as the most effective, currently-available tool, for preventing a cytokine storm. The probem is, though, with the weakened immune system that these meds create, opportunistic infections would be a very high risk, during a flu pandemic, which might be just as dangerous as the flu itself, (or even more so). Also, they are extremely expensive. During a "normal" flu epidemic, most people die of complications, rather than the flu itself, don't they? That risk would still exist, with the most virulent strains, also, and would probably be amplified.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cytokine_storm
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.