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Karina's Kitchen/GF Diet Recipe's

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http://glutenfreegoddess.blogspot.com/2 ... narch.html

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I was sent this site by a dear friend and found some of the recipes quite interesting and there is other informative information in regards to eating GF that I thought many would like to check out for themselves.

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Hi Jodi,

The rest of that site may be great, for all I know, but I couldn't get past the first couple of paragraphs, where the author quotes a letter from Elaine Monarch, Founder of The Celiac Disease Foundation, and they both criticize Elisabeth Hasselbeck for writing a book that encourages readers to adopt a gluten-free lifestyle, without an official medical diagnosis of celiac sprue.

First off, IMO, it is none of their *#%Q#* business, what sort of diet anyone in this country chooses to follow. Secondly, even if it were their business, the fact that the medical community is only able to diagnose about one out of every hundred-plus people who are sensitive to gluten, makes them co-conspirators in what probably should be considered to be a crime, namely, the failure to properly diagnose a very serious medical condition that affects many millions of people, the world over, and recommending that people eat a diet that is very harmful for many of us, unless we have an "official" celiac diagnosis, (which, of course, many of us cannot get, because the GI docs don't know how to diagnosis us, when the celiac blood tests are negative). For them to say that there is something wrong with taking our health into our own hands, by adopting a diet that is arguably much healthier for us, is absolutely ludicrous. Obviously, they really don't care about their readers' health - they just want to make sure that they do everything the "official" way.

By their standards, most of us here, are some sort of "outlaws", and they would prefer that we follow our doctor's advice, and continue to eat gluten, and spend the rest of our lives chained to a bathroom. That leaves a very bitter taste in my mouth.

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I'm sorry Tex:

I should have read the intire site before posting it. I have to admit that I only went to the recipe section without reading everything else. I'm truly sorry.

I have read many articles recently about Elizabeth Hasselbeck and have found what she has said very informative. Had no idea that she has been dealing with celiac disease for quite sometime.

It wasn't my intention to upset anyone with this post and I should have read everything from the site before posting. I'm terribly sorry. I'm thinking I better continue helping others by doing what I'm more qualified and better at, which is promoting having a positive attitude and giving others love and support.

I honestly meant no harm.

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Oh, Jodi, don't be upset. Tex wasn't criticizing you personally. Some of the recipes probably are good. I bookmarked the page to get to them but, like you, I didn't read much of the rest of the site.

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I've had this site bookmarked for quite a while. She does have good recipes.

There is a lot of discussion about her review of the book and many of the comments disagree with her assessment. Hopefully people will read the comments before making a decision about it.

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Jodi,

There was absolutely nothing wrong with your posting a link to that site. You clearly stated the reason - the recipes. Shirley is right, of course. I should have taken the time to explain all this before I posted that response, and then ran off to take care of some errands, but at the time, I thought I was in a hurry. :sigh:

Please forgive me - my remarks were not directed at you. I just feel that I have to support someone who encourages people to take responsibility for their own health, when the medical profession lets them down, and I have a problem with people who criticize them for doing so. If the medical establishment had a much better track record with celiac issues, I could see their point of insisting that people should follow the official guidelines. The truth is, though, that the medical track record on gluten sensitivity truly sucks, and any patient who puts their faith in the ability of the guys in the white coats, to give them the best possible care, unless they are fully-developed celiacs, is being naive.

This is just my opinon, and clearly, they are taking the safe course, (siding with the "official" medical policy on gluten sensitivity). Just because I disagree with them on one issue, certainly does not mean that the rest of the information on their website is without merit. I only critiqued the first thing that I came to, because it happened to be the one thing on that site, (probably), that I disagree with. I'm sure they would disagree with some of the opinions that we hold here, but if no one ever disagreed, it would be a mighty dull world, wouldn't it.

Please don't change anything that you do or say on this board because of my narrow-minded views on the inadequate/inappropriate care that people who are gluten-sensitive, but not diagnosed with celiac disease, receive from the medical community. Hopefully, that will eventually improve by several orders of magnitude, and I won't have anything to complain about. :lol:

I'm sorry Jodi. I didn't mean to worry you, or upset you. My remarks were directed at their decision to promote what I consider to be a misguided cause, on what is very likely otherwise, a most excellent website.

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Post by starfire »

OK Tex,

Now I feel I have to say that I don't want you to stop giving your opinions about things either!!! I have learned a lot from you and you usually have an excellent viewpoint about so many subjects. I truly enjoy reading your posts.

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Hi Tex:

In June I will have been on these boards a year and there is no doubt in my mind or in my heart that I truly value the knowledge you have and receive so much from your post.

What has happened is just the fact that before I posted this site I didn't read the entire site. I'm still learning and growing.

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Jodi,

Okay, I spent a few minutes looking around the site, and you are quite correct, there are a lot of good-looking recipes there, and all of the ones that I checked out, appear to be free of most other common intolerances, also, (such as dairy, eggs, etc.), which places them way above par, as GF recipes go. Therefore, the recipes definitely deserve a :thumbsup:.

One of the things that bothers me about that site, though, is the fact that it contains at least 6 "web bugs" that my browser could detect, (by means of a special add-on, that searches for such things). Web bugs are hidden scripts that track our behavior, (IOW, the way we use our computers), and they're used by the sites we visit, to better understand our viewing habits. It's not at all uncommon for websites to have one or two "web bugs", but 6 is a lot, and that distinction puts that site in the position of doing a way above average amount of information gathering, from viewers. Also, most sites mention the fact that their servers might be collecting information from the viewer, and describe how this information is used, (and hopefully, they describe how viewer information is protected from unscrupulous third-party entities), by means of a clearly stated privacy policy, that viewers can easily locate and read. I couldn't find any such privacy policy on the site, but maybe it is hidden, or I just didn't look far enough. The closest the site comes to addressing this issue, is a very brief disclaimer that doesn't even mention it, and ends with a remark that seemed to me to be inappropriately sarcastic, "Are we happy now?" It almost seems as if someone got on the site owner's case for not posting a disclaimer, so she reluctantly complied.

In case anyone is interested, the web bugs found there include Quantcast, Statcounter, Google Adsense, Doubleclick, Google Widgets, and Twitter Badge. There might be others, that remained undetected. Most of those are ad-related, of course. By comparison, our own site uses Statcounter, to keep track of the number of "hits" by search engines, where in the world the hits are coming from, and whether they are new hits, or repeats, which pages the hits were directed to by the search engines, etc. However, that use of tracking technology, (along with a description of any other information gathered by this site), is clearly disclosed in our privacy policy, (at least, I hope that the information is clear, and understandable).

Since we don't have any ads, we don't have any reason to utilize any of those other bugs, but if we did allow ads, then we would almost certainly use some of those devices, also. That said, none of those "web bugs" are inherently "evil", (unless the site chooses to make inappropriate use of the information gathered), however, it is very, very poor web etiquette to collect all that information, without informing the viewers that the site is collecting it, by means of a posted privacy policy, or a reasonable facsimile. In fact, from a liability standpoint, in today's world, it seems very risky to gather information from viewers, without a clearly stated privacy policy. I find it hard to believe that the site doesn't seem to have one. That, however, has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of the information presented on the site, and as I have already mentioned, the recipes look great.

Incidentally, for anyone who uses Firefox, here's a link to the add-on that I use for keeping track of "web bugs", if you want to add it to your own browser. With it installed in your browser, you can see instantly, in a little pop-up window, which lingers for an adjustable amount of time, and then disappears, exactly which web bugs are collecting information from your computer, as soon as you browse to a site:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefo ... q=ghostery

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Tex

P S I seem to be in a nit-picking mood these days, don't I. :lol:
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Hi Tex:

Thank You for informing us about the "web bugs" that we can run across on sites.

FYI, I am the Queen of Dumb on the computer. LOL :roll: So I truly appreciate it when others inform me about what to be aware of and to watch for.

We all have our off days and sometimes what we try to convey doesn't come across the way it was intended. I have always value your opinions and that is not going to change.

Thank You for your Love and Support!
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Hi folks-
I have been trying Karina's recipes for quite some time now...all with excellent results! It is a terrific resource for those with multiple food intolerances. I have pasted her response to comments on the book because she does recognize other conditions beside CD may necessitate a GF/CF diet including MC regardless of a positive test.

From the site:
My personal belief regarding related autoimmune disorders is that research will eventually support a connection with consuming gluten and casein, and even other proteins. Autoimmune diseases run in families, they are genetic. And they tend to "run in packs" as a rheumatologist told me.

I have absolutely no quarrel with anyone who wrestles with an autoimmune disease believing that eating gluten-free helps alleviate symptoms. The genetic markers for several autoimmune diseases often share family history. Without going into medical detail, my family medical history features several autoimmune diseases, two cases of diagnosed celiac, and various cancers.

The bottom line?

Research into celiac genetic markers is on-going. As is the relationship between various autoimmune diseases. They don't have all the answers yet.

This we know for sure:

Gluten is the trigger for celiac disease.

Celiac disease is life threatening. It's not a disease where you can cheat on holidays, or eat "just a little", or pick the sausage off a pizza crust and call that g-free.

Cheating or risking chronic exposure through cross contamination (Hasselbeck recommending eating out at Wendy's boggles the mind) keeps the body in a state of inflammation. Inflammation is the key that unlocks disease.

Presenting the gluten-free diet as a fun way to "lose weight" is misleading (untrue for many- moi included; I've gained 20 pounds since going gluten-free- and yes, that's a good thing). It also undermines the seriousness of our dilemma eating out. It's hard enough convincing extended family, friends and wait staff that "just a little" won't hurt us, that this diet of ours isn't just another fad.

Celiac disease ups our risk of non-Hodgkin lymphoma, anemia, osteoporosis.

Diseases that put you at risk for celiac disease are: Type 1 diabetes, autoimmune thyroid disease, microscopic colitis.
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Post by Gloria »

Tex,

I've spent a little bit of time on other support sites like this one. I am always very distracted and annoyed by the amount of advertising on them. The lack of advertising on this site makes it much easier to navigate and more pleasant to use. I assume that we don't have to deal with advertising because someone is paying for the maintenance and hosting of this site. If it is you, Tex, THANK YOU! If someone else is subsidizing it, I thank them. It's something that I think we take for granted until we go to another site.

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Gloria,

I'm like you - I have never enjoyed having to wade through all the advertising on most sites. Most people who set up a web site, probably dream of getting rich off all the advertising money that will come pouring in, some day. It ain't gonna happen, though, unless the site becomes immensely popular. For the rest of us, I just don't think it's worth it to force everyone to have to put up with all the ads, just to spend a little time visiting.

It really doesn't cost very much to avoid all the ads. As far as I'm concerned, it's money well spent, and I'm glad to see that you agree.

You're most welcome,

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