I ate some Passionate Mango So Delicious coconut yogurt today for lunch. I've been avoiding the yogurt because I've had some small reactions before and haven't been sure if the yogurt was the problem.
Today answered that question! Within minutes of eating it, my stomach began churning and gurgling. After 45 minutes, I was in the bathroom with D. An hour after that, I had explosive, watery D. Here are the ingredients:
INGREDIENTS:WATER, COCONUT MILK, PASSIONFRUIT JUICE CONCENTRATE, MANGO PUREE, MANGO FLAVOR, ORGANIC EVAPORATED CANE JUICE, PECTIN, CHICORY ROOT EXTRACT, DEXTROSE, NATURAL FLAVORS, ALGIN (KELP EXTRACT), MAGNESIUM PHOSPHATE, TRICALCIUM PHOSPHATE, RICE STARCH, LOCUST BEAN GUM, AGAR, CULTURE, CARRAGEENAN, GUAR GUM, DIPOTASSIUM PHOSPHATE, VITAMIN B12.
I've safely eaten their chocolate coconut ice cream. It contains the following ingredients:
INGREDIENTS: ORGANIC COCONUT MILK, ORGANIC AGAVE SYRUP, CHICORY ROOT EXTRACT, COCOA (PROCESSED WITH ALKALI), CAROB BEAN GUM, GUAR GUM, NATURAL FLAVOR
I've highlighted the ones that are unique to the yogurt. I just drank 1/2 cup of mango juice the other morning and didn't have this kind of reaction. I'm leaning toward the carraggenan because I ate a frozen lime bar containing carrageenan last week and had a similar, but less severe reaction the next morning. If I'm intolerant to carrageenan, it would further strengthen the connection between genetic test results and specific intolerances because Polly is also intolerant to carrageenan.
Has anyone else had problems with the So Delicious coconut yogurt? Do you have problems with any of the other ingredients besides carrageenan?
Gloria
So Delicious Coconut Yogurt Problems
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So Delicious Coconut Yogurt Problems
You never know what you can do until you have to do it.
Gloria,
From a quantitative analysis viewpoint, consider the fact that the yogurt contains 21 ingredients, while the ice cream contains 7 ingredients. This alone, triples your chances of reacting to the yogurt, compared with the ice cream.
Also, I've forgotten the rule, but either Polly or Matthew, (I think), once gave us a rule of thumb to follow, when considering processed foods. It went something like, anything over X number of ingredients, is not worth considering, because the odds of a reaction increase significantly, after that point. I don't remember the value of "X", but it was a relatively low number - "5" comes to mind, but I don't know if that's it, or not. Thinking back, to when I was in the early stages of healing, I was never able to eat any processed foods, without some form of reaction, no matter how safe the list of ingredients appeared to be, if they contained more that 4 or 5 ingredients. That's a fact. Does anyone else remember reading about that rule?
That rule is not just smoke and mirrors, it has statistical validity, and the simple quantitative analysis mentioned above, is also based on the mathematics of probability. This doesn't mean that you can't get away with eating processed foods that contain more than "X" ingredients, it simply means that you are playing the odds from a disadvantaged position, if more ingredients are involved.
Tex
From a quantitative analysis viewpoint, consider the fact that the yogurt contains 21 ingredients, while the ice cream contains 7 ingredients. This alone, triples your chances of reacting to the yogurt, compared with the ice cream.
Also, I've forgotten the rule, but either Polly or Matthew, (I think), once gave us a rule of thumb to follow, when considering processed foods. It went something like, anything over X number of ingredients, is not worth considering, because the odds of a reaction increase significantly, after that point. I don't remember the value of "X", but it was a relatively low number - "5" comes to mind, but I don't know if that's it, or not. Thinking back, to when I was in the early stages of healing, I was never able to eat any processed foods, without some form of reaction, no matter how safe the list of ingredients appeared to be, if they contained more that 4 or 5 ingredients. That's a fact. Does anyone else remember reading about that rule?
That rule is not just smoke and mirrors, it has statistical validity, and the simple quantitative analysis mentioned above, is also based on the mathematics of probability. This doesn't mean that you can't get away with eating processed foods that contain more than "X" ingredients, it simply means that you are playing the odds from a disadvantaged position, if more ingredients are involved.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Mary Beth, Are you a double DQ 1 too? Welcome to the club (dubious honor, I know).
Gloria, I'll bet on the carrageenan, although I have always found (as Tex indicated) that the more ingredients, the greater the chance for a problem.
Love,
Polly
Gloria, I'll bet on the carrageenan, although I have always found (as Tex indicated) that the more ingredients, the greater the chance for a problem.
Love,
Polly
Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused.
Polly,
Exact same pofile Double DQ1, subtype 5,6. I, like Gloria, am still sorting out my intolerances, but we do seem to share quite a few. I am going to do MRT testing tomorrow - I am curious if it will help to identify my intolerances more quickly. MRT seems to be gaining in popularity and many dietitians are reporting good success with it. I will report back to the group after I get my results.
Mary Beth
Exact same pofile Double DQ1, subtype 5,6. I, like Gloria, am still sorting out my intolerances, but we do seem to share quite a few. I am going to do MRT testing tomorrow - I am curious if it will help to identify my intolerances more quickly. MRT seems to be gaining in popularity and many dietitians are reporting good success with it. I will report back to the group after I get my results.
Mary Beth
Mary Beth,
I'll be very interested in the results of your MRT tests. BTW, do you react to Pepto Bismol?
Polly,
Yes, I'm leaning toward the carrageenan. I'm trying to decide if I want to do any further testing on it. It's in Pacific Almond milk, which I've purchased, but haven't used. It's probably easier to just avoid it altogether.
Gloria
I'll be very interested in the results of your MRT tests. BTW, do you react to Pepto Bismol?
Polly,
Yes, I'm leaning toward the carrageenan. I'm trying to decide if I want to do any further testing on it. It's in Pacific Almond milk, which I've purchased, but haven't used. It's probably easier to just avoid it altogether.
Gloria
You never know what you can do until you have to do it.
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the rule of 5
Professor and journalist Michael Pollan believes anything with more than five ingredients should be passed up. I also love his suggestion that you should never purchase anything your grandmother (or great grandmother depending on generation) would not recognize in the grocery store. I read this when I was only DF, before soy/gluten/eggs were added into the equation. (In Defense of Food, Michael Pollan)
Alex,
That "grandmother rule" is a super idea. It certainly would help to rule out a lot of the problems found in grocery stores today, while preserving the basic staples of healthy meal preparation. It's absolutely incredible how many ingredients are listed for most precessed foods, these days. Most manufacturers apparently believe that the more ingredients they use, the better it will sell.
Matthew might have told us about that 5-ingredient rule - he's read at least a couple of Michael Pollan's books.
Thanks for the information,
Tex
That "grandmother rule" is a super idea. It certainly would help to rule out a lot of the problems found in grocery stores today, while preserving the basic staples of healthy meal preparation. It's absolutely incredible how many ingredients are listed for most precessed foods, these days. Most manufacturers apparently believe that the more ingredients they use, the better it will sell.
Matthew might have told us about that 5-ingredient rule - he's read at least a couple of Michael Pollan's books.
Thanks for the information,
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.