Question for the gluten intolerant folks on here

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Question for the gluten intolerant folks on here

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If you eat gluten, does something immediately happen to you...like pretty much instant rumblings and D ?

Just wondering because I haven't eaten any gluten for 2 weeks, because of my recent flare up. (I am positive probiotic yogurt is making me better. Also I quit taking Ibuprohen.)

Anyway I ate an English muffin two days ago, Friday morning and then for dinner that night spagetti and 2 pieces of garlic bread.

I did have a bit of loose stools this morning, but yesterday I ate hot dogs (all beef with no fillers and ate no buns) and fish and chips, with cornmeal breading. And also I drank alot of Vodka over the weekend and ate a bunch of cheetos..Yes I totally ran amuck for two days. :oops: :lol: (maybe I should be in the "confessions" area)

But I never once got any of the rumbling gut or URGENT D trips to the bathroom after all the gluten.

I am back to being goody-two-shoes today and for a long time to come however. So would I know pretty much immediately if gluten was bothering me?

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Hiya GasBag----Im an OLDB who just got back from vacation---and am catching up with as many posts as I can--
Listen-----just say five Hail Mary's and the Rosary and all *eating sins* shall be forgiven U-- :smile:
Heck I imagine at one time or another we all went *off the wagon*---

Luve ya Christian name-- :thumbsup:

Hope ya feel better sooner than soon--

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Hi Deb,

I agree with Barbara.

I suspect the reason she likes your name, is because she has a daughter named Deb.

As I've mentioned before, (in various posts, in the past), I kept a detailed food diary for two and a half years, starting one month before I started the GF diet, and I never could tell a difference when I ate any gluten - I seemed to be sick at random times, and everything seemed to make me sick. The effect may have been dose-dependent - IOW, maybe after I ate enough of it, I would get sick. Now that I have been in remission for a number of years, though, It's much easier to tell. My usual reaction time now, is from about 3 to 6 hours after eating something, (that I shouldn't have eaten), and after it flushes out my system, good and proper, I will usually be back to normal, in about 8 or 10 hours, or so.

Some people don't react until the following day, and some people react according to their normal transit time, that is, if it takes 30 hours for most carbs to go completely through their system, then they may not get D until about 30 hours after eating the offending gluten-containing food. Note that there is no such thing as a single precise transit time for anyone, though. Different types of food take different amounts of time to go through the various parts of the GI tract, (stomach, small intestine, and colon). Liquids, obviously, go through much faster than other foods, especially through the stomach and small intestine. The more difficult a food is to digest, the longer the transit time. That's one of the reasons why fiber slows down motility for D-phase IBS, for example.

I have a hunch that the reason why there is so much variability in the transit times for gluten, for various members here, is connected with small intestinal involvement. IOW, for those of us whose small intestine is also sensitive to gluten, we will react much sooner, (it takes approximately 2 to 4 hours for the stomach to empty half it's contents into the small intestine, after a meal). For those of us who only have colon sensitivity to gluten, though, it should take roughly a day longer to react, since the small intestine will not be generating gliadin antibodies as the chime, (partially digested food), passes through it. On the other hand, for those with gastgritis, (stomach involvement), reactions could come within as little as 10 or 15 minutes, and we do have a few members who have such rapid reaction times. They can't finish a meal, without running to the bathroom. IOW, we're all different, but our respective reaction times are pretty consistent, on an individual basis. That's one of the tricky parts of dealing with MC - the answer to a lot of questions, depends on who you're asking. :lol:

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Thanks for the detailed answer Tex and Hi Barb.

I am just going to keep track of what I eat and go from there. I am actually feeling quite good, no rumblings and no panic runs to the bathroom. Time and diet will tell.

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Keep on keeping on, Deb. :thumbsup:
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Thanks Joan, good advice. That's all we can do. :smile:

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Deb,

I've never noticed an immediate reaction to gluten, or any reaction for that matter. I've avoided it since my Enterolab test results two years ago.

I avoid it because I have faith in the Enterolab tests and because others here attest to the problems it causes them. I cannot say that I have personally experienced any problems, but I believe Dr. Fine and the experienced members here when they say it is a factor in MC and can cause damage to the intestines. I don't want to tempt fate.

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Thanks Gloria, this is the kind of information I'm asking for. If you have been tested by Enterolab you can't dismiss the results or the experiences of others.

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Hi Deb

I also cannot think of immediate reaction to eating Gluten. The only immediate reaction I have experienced is tummy rumblings straight after drinking Rice Dream. (I suppose since it is liquid it reaches my colon quickly.)

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Thanks Ant. My problem is during a flare up I just seem to be intolerant of all food, then in remission nothing phases me.

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My son intentionally ate some Cheezits the other day. When he told me he did it he said "and it didn't give me diarrhea". Fast forward 2 hours - tummy ache so bad he couldn't go to football practice . . . in another hour a headache set in . . . in a few more hours he was on the potty. Lesson learned but so hard for a 9 year old. The very next day at camp they had cake and he couldn't eat it - he was just about in tears.

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mbeezie wrote:My son intentionally ate some Cheezits the other day. When he told me he did it he said "and it didn't give me diarrhea". Fast forward 2 hours - tummy ache so bad he couldn't go to football practice . . . in another hour a headache set in . . . in a few more hours he was on the potty. Lesson learned but so hard for a 9 year old. The very next day at camp they had cake and he couldn't eat it - he was just about in tears.

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Ah the poor little guy. I feel so extremely bad for kids with this. I can't imagine how hard it must be for a child.

It's bad enough being an adult with our better reasoning powers, I can't imagine what a kid goes through trying to rationalize this.

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Hi Deb,
When I accidently eat gluten, within an hour or so I have gas and extremely smelly gas (my husband calls these the "gluten farts" because they have a sulphur kinda smell sorry for tmi). Also, my stomach makes those horrible churning noises that you can hear across the room! I usually don't have diarrhea until about 12 hours or so later. Usually in the morning if its dinner that got me. Also, it is dose dependent for me, if I got a lot of gluten in will be a very LONG morning!
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Thanks, you guys are helping me out alot with your responses.

I have had no adverse reactions to eating gluten a few times this last week. Nor have I had a problem with it for the last 2 and a half years.

I am now convinced my attack last month was from starting a statin drug, I tried 3 times to take it, an each time got a very bad rumbling gut and then constant D, so I won't try it again.

Also I have been drinking Vodka pretty much everyday and taking Ibuprohen this last couple of years, even though I knew I shouldn't be.

So I am off the sauce (last weekend was trial and ERROR) and the Ibuprofen.

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Post by tex »

Theoretically, vodka shouldn't be contraindicated for MC, but it can perpetuate the leaky gut syndrome, of course, which can cause basically the same symptoms as MC, or worse, and, of course, the leaky gut syndrome can prolong an MC reaction.

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