Studies Show That Flu Vaccines For Elderly Are Ineffective

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Studies Show That Flu Vaccines For Elderly Are Ineffective

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Hi All,

More and more studies are showing that flu vaccines that target the elderly are ineffective. So why do governments, and the medical community, continue to promote these programs as effective and beneficial?

http://www.drbriffa.com/blog/2010/02/17 ... e-elderly/

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Thanks, Tex. I think I resemble that remark now that I had my BIG birthday. I didn't take either flu shot and am hoping the D-3 will keep me healthy.........

BTW, I just found the cure for so many things while researching info for my dog. The cure for a lot of stuff including colitis is, are you ready, COCONUT OIL. :shock:

http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:kkK ... clnk&gl=us
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Joan,

Sometime back, a new member pointed that out. For all I know it might work, but the reason that I have been reluctant to delve further into it, is because one of it's staunchest advocates is someone whose "work" we're familiar with:

http://www.quackwatch.org/11Ind/rubin.html

"Virgin Coconut Oil" is one of the products that were specifically cited in the FDA order in 2004, unfortunately.

That doesn't mean that your dog might not benefit from it, of course. :wink:

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Thanks. I still might try her on coconut for fiber because the pumpkin doesn't seem to be working that well. We will be out of it pretty soon anyhow. I bought 12 cans at one store and 22 at another. That's all there is around here because of the bad crop this year.
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Post by Rosie »

Tex, I read that the most effective way to protect the elderly from the flu is to have big push to immunize all the kids, who are primarily responsible for the spread of an outbreak. This effectively reduces the amount of exposure the elderly get to flu germs. Older folks have a much weaker immune response to immunizations, so flu shots aren't very effective.

I must say that neither I or DH have had any cold or flu symptoms since we started taking 6000 U of Vit D a day.

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Rosie,

That makes sense to me. There's no question in my mind that kids are always the first to bring viruses home, (and everywhere else, for that matter). To me, it seems rather ignoble, for the government, and the medical profession, to be giving the older generation a false sense of security, by inappropriately claiming that taking the shot will prevent them from catching the flu. Why not just tell the truth?

During this last hospital event, when I was moved from the ER into an ICU room, my second-shift nurse, (IOW, the night nurse), apparently had a cold. She was constantly sniffling and blowing her nose, coughing occasionally, sneezing once in a while, etc. I cringed every time she coughed or sneezed, of course, because I knew that there was a very good chance that I would have to have surgery, and it's usually tough enough weaning oneself off a ventilator, without a cold to hamper your breathing. :roll:

When I started bleeding again, and the surgical team came in to explain their plan, and to help prep me for the OR, naturally the nurse helped, and naturally, more than once, in the haste of getting everything done as quickly as possible, she coughed right into my face, more than once. :roll: I knew I was doomed. :lol:

Anyway, as expected, during recovery, I noticed a few minor signs of a cold, mostly a very light congestion/tickling in my throat, but not much else. It just never developed. I never developed any major coughing problem, (thank goodness), and I don't recall having to blow my nose. I did have some congestion issues early on, but I suspect that those were associated with the anesthesia/respirator/NG tube, etc. The "cold" came on a little later, and quickly faded away. Since I've been taking 4,500 IU of vitamin D3, daily, since early in the fall, plus the benefit of sunshine at a relatively low latitude, (Central Texas), I'm pretty sure that my 25(OH)D level was in the upper third of the recommended range, and that bit of luck, (or foresight, depending on how you look at it), was responsible for protecting me from that cold.

I agree - Vitamin D is the best thing to come along since sliced bread. :lol:

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