Can mc cause food to pass thru you in 10 minutes

[Fourangels]

Took my doctor three years to figure out I have mc. What a clown. Trying to get my life in some balance but nothing working. In a panic on a vacation last week I was put on prednisone. Will stop tomorrow after reading about it's potential dangerous side effects. After reading some of Tex's post, I am determined to slow this disease. If I eat food that my body rejects is it possible to have diarrea 10 to 15 minutes after eating it? Thanks for any help

[MBombardier]

Fourangels!!

I am not very far into this journey, so I don't have a definitive answer for you, but I think it would take longer for D to begin. I have read that it takes 20 minutes for a banana to digest, but then that's in a normal digestion situation.

The wealth of experience and education on this forum, and the care, compassion, empathy and sympathy are unequaled for those of us dealing with this mess. You've come to the right place.

[grannyh]

Yes it is possible.. heck I was running to the bathroom before I even finished dinner! My husband couldn't believe it at first.. he said how can that be... you didn't even have time to digest anything!!!

I even have a horror story about filling my diapers during a Thanksgiving dinner... then loudly continuing to fill them as I ran from the room to the bathroom!
grannyh

[Linda in BC]

Hi Four Angels and

I don't know about 10 to 15 minutes but I ate something I reacted to last night and I had D. within an hour. It is possible for it to only take that long, I suppose, if your intestine is really irritated and in bad condition... I mean, I have been having normans and am doing really well on Entocort and it only took me an hour.. .

Are you going to ask to be put on Entocort? It is the best steroid for intestinal things as it doesn't dissolve until it is down in there, so has far less side effects than prednisone.
Linda

[natythingycolbery]

Yeah, before I was diagnosed with MC and first had my symptoms I needed the toilet as soon as i started eating!

Welcome to the family, I hope you find what you are looking for!

[Polly]

Hi Fourangels and

Yes, unfortunately. I know this to be a fact. How do I know? Well, one of the early (10 years ago) members on this Board had active MC and was doing a barium swallow test. She swallowed the chalky barium and it appeared in her stool 15 minutes later! I have always remembered this as an example of how messed up our gut transit can be during a severe flare.

Also, a short course of prednisone can be used to "shock" the gut into behaving more normally so that less strong meds and diet will then be effective. Sometimes it is needed, as some here can attest.

Please tell us more about you!

Love,

Polly

[Fourangels]

thanks for all the replies. I am so busy at work for last ten years I just ignored this issue. Fortunately I have my own bathroom in my office and it never was such a big deal. plus with a big family and a crazy wife I was too busy and could ignore my MC. Of course if my loser GI doctor figured this out 4 years ago when I was going through hell maybe it would be gone by now. i have BM about 10 to 15 times a day for so long I cannot remember. i have actually had stomach hunger pains maybe tree times in last 5 years. I am going to Cleveland Clinic in Weston FL next week (the 7th) Now that I have seen this site I am determined to fix this issue. I appreciate all the answers you have given me. i am truly clueless. The internet has such little facts on this other than no one knows what causes it or how to stop it. Now that I have been on Prednisone for 6 days it has helped a little but only lowered it to 7 times a day BM. Also quit eating so that might have lowered the numbers. Who knows. Please keep the answers coming. the Entocort seemed to work for a week but I started eating normal and maybe that is why I went back to every hour bm. :(

[tex]

Hi,

Welcome aboard. Sorry to hear that it took your doctor so long to diagnose your MC - that seems to be a rather common problem with this disease.

If the Prednisone hasn't done any better than to cut the daily number of BMs in half, you are probably going to have to modify your diet, in order to resolve your symptoms. When it only takes 10 or 15 minutes for food to travel the entire 25 to 30 feet through your GI tract, obviously your body is trying to tell you something about the food you are eating - IOW, it's not very happy with what you are ingesting.

Most of us are sensitive to gluten, (all products containing wheat, barley, rye, or oats, in any form), and all dairy products. About half of us are also sensitive to soy and all it's derivatives, and most of the other legumes. Some members have additional sensitivities, (such as eggs, soy, corn, etc.) Anyway, the point is, many of us are able to achieve and maintain stable remission, so long as we eliminate from our diet, all the foods to which we are sensitive - IOW, our treatment is by diet alone, with no medications. Some members here control their symptoms by the use of a medication, (Entocort is probably the most popular choice), and some find that they have to use both diet control and Entocort, or one of the 5-ASA meds, (mesalamine-based), in order to get their life back. Everyone works out their own treatment program, in order to suit their needs, and their own individual lifestyle.

Don't be surprised if the GI specialists at the Cleveland Clinic tell you that diet has nothing to do with MC, because that is still the prevailing medical thinking on this disease. I've never been able to understand how they can have the audacity to assume that food has nothing to do with digestive system diseases. Food is basically the only input into the digestive system, so thinking logically, how could it not be a major influence?

Good luck with your visit to the Clinic next week. Again, welcome aboard, and please feel free to ask anything.

Tex

P. S. I assume your reference to your "crazy wife" was a compliment of sorts to her. After you hang out here a while, you'll discover that most of us are "crazy" too - you pretty much have to be, to deal with this disease on a daily basis, and still remain in a good mood.

[Linda in BC]

you'll discover that most of us are "crazy" too - you pretty much have to be, to deal with this disease on a daily basis, and still remain in a good mood.

Aha,Tex! , so that's your secret. ..

[natythingycolbery]

you'll discover that most of us are "crazy" too - you pretty much have to be, to deal with this disease on a daily basis, and still remain in a good mood.

Aha,Tex! , so that's your secret. ..

Linda, It also helps if you where crazy before the symptoms of MC arrived too

[MaggieRedwings]

I can remember back in the start of this disease being just like Granny H. 10 minutes was sometimes a long time - eating was immediate bathroom boogie. Of course that was before GF.

Maggie

[Fourangels]

came back from old GI doc. Going to get a Cedliac Profile test thru bloodwork. Doc says its 99.9 percent accurate. Can we MC'ers still have issues with gluten even if test says otherwise. (PS. may have gotten test name wrong as I cannot read what he wrote on script)

[grannyh]

A test for Celiac disease will only tell you if you have celiac or not.. it might not show you have an intolerance to gluten. As has been said often here, there aren't many doctors who believe diet plays any part in our illness but there are tons of people here who know diet DOES matter.
grannyh

[tex]

If I recall correctly, the last time I checked, the celiac blood tests have about a 90% accuracy rate for fully-developed celiac disease. For anything less than fully-developed celiac disease, though, they are notorious for false negative results. IOW, if you happen to be in the early stages of celiac disease, regardless of the severity of your clinical symptoms, it may take several years before the disease progresses to the point where there will be enough antibodies in the blood for a positive test result. This is because the antibodies are generated in the gut, not in the blood.

I doubt if many doctors realize just how unreliable the celiac blood tests are, because most of them deny the existence of non-celiac gluten-sensitivity, which provides a good way for them to rationalize their misguided faith in the tests. As GrannyH says, the type of gluten-sensitivity that we have with MC will virtually never show positive test results with the blood tests, even though we are just as sensitive as celiacs, on the average.

Still, the tests are simple, so it's usually a good idea to try that before starting the GF diet, (just in case you happen to have celiac disease also), because once you start the diet, the blood tests have such poor sensitivity that they won't detect gluten antibodies after a few weeks on the diet, even for patients with fully-developed celiac disease. The stool tests offered by Enterolab will reliably detect gluten antibodies up to at least a year after adopting the GF diet.

Tex

[klhale]

oh yeah, stay on the pred until you get a script for Entocort...stop eating wheat and dairy, and the D will stop. If you get D after eating, try to figure out what else you ate that made you sick. It takes a while after being that sick for so long, and your colon is very inflamed.

Hang in there, it will get so much better, now you know what you are dealing with.

Karen