Nausea with a MC flare??

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Nausea with a MC flare??

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Sorry if I am beating a dead horse with this question. I think it's been mentioned before. I have MC and a few times a year, I have very bad flares with nausea and even some vomiting. Diarrhea also. Yesterday I was in the middle of a bad flare at work, and developed intense nausea. I didn't feel like eating too much, but dry-heaved at work and when I got home. I felt a little better a few hours later, so I had some soup and very light snacks. My gastroenterologist must think there's something to the MC connection and nausea, because he called in a prescription for Phenergan. I am better tonight. Can you have nausea with MC? If so, what do you do to make this stop? I am on sulfasalazine, which is enteric-coated, and you have to eat with that, but if I'm nauseous, what do I do? What do I eat. Just wondered about this and thought I'd ask. Any help with the nausea would be greatly appreciated!
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hi littlemary
I'm new to the forum, but can relate to the nausea you have.
I have lymphocytic colitis, and aways get nausea with a flare, plus the invetiable diarrhea and vomiting. Can't eat or drink and so far haven't found an answer other than crawl between bathroom and bedroom, hoping not to pass out as often happens.
Doc recently gave me a med called Gastro_Soothe, not sure what its called where you live, Hydoscine N Butyl Brom is written on the pack.
It seems to help a lot with the crampy abdominal pains, but nothing takes the nausea away :sad:
Ensure seems to be the best for me to drink (just sips) when you start to feel better, any food just aggravates the problem. Haven't been much help but least you know others understand how horrible it is. :smile:
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Hi Mary,

Oh yes, nausea and vomiting can definitely go along with MC. Some have it more than others. Inflammation can occur anywhere in the GI tract, including the stomach. Sometimes it helps to cut out acid-producing foods like citrus, tomatoes, coffee, alcohol. It can also help to neutralize stomach acid - I use calcium carbonate. I found it helps to eat small, frequent meals throughout the day - or at least a snack every few hours.

Some natural remedies that can soothe: chamomile tea and ginger. I know peppermint tea is often recommended, but I just read an article that said that it can cause relaxation of the muscle between the stomach and esophagus, which we don't want to do if we are having acid reflux.

Hope you are feeling better.


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My daughter just told me about a Gravol product ( as in made by Gravol) made from ginger and that it works extremely well for her for getting rid of nausea.

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Hi Mary,

Nausea, and occasional vomiting, was a regular part of the routine for me, when I was reacting. Usually, for me, the vomiting only lasted for a few hours, or so, and when it would let up, I would try to eat a little chicken soup. That was my standard diet when I was nauseated, also.

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Mizzle,

Welcome to the board. I see from your flag, that you're from New Zealand. I believe that we only have one or two other members from NZ, but we have quite a few members from your part of the world, who live in Australia.

Again, welcome aboard, and please feel free to ask anything.

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littlemary,
Nausea and vomiting is very common for me when I have a flare. I just came off the month from he-l. I could not keep any food down and lost 13 lbs. in one month. I was more nauseous than I had ever been in my life. I finally broke down and went on entocort and within a couple days felt a lot better.
It took 2 years for my doctor to believe me that nausea was a symptom of MC, he orignally told me it was nothing more than "a little diarrhea".
I hope you are feeling better soon.

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It took 2 years for my doctor to believe me that nausea was a symptom of MC, he originally told me it was nothing more than "a little diarrhea".
You know I wonder what our doctors would say if they had the 'pleasure' of experiencing MC for a few months...


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Welcome, Mizzle!! :grin:

Littlemary, I have also experienced nausea in an MC flare. I warm up a rice bag and curl up around it. The heat seems to help. Also, I second what Linda said about ginger. I know that a little bit of candied ginger is a remedy for women experiencing morning sickness.
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Luckily the vomiting doesn't happen very often. I had the worst flare of my life the other day due to something stressful that happened at work. I had to stay at work and felt so nauseated. But like you said, Tex, it doesn't seem to last that long.

I have found something called Reed's ginger drink for nausea, or something like that. Only problem was, I don't think I could have even kept that down. The next day I had off, I took Phenergan and started feeling better, but very sleepy, so I shared a blood supply with the sofa for awhile.

Barbara and Polly, I also found something that may work, called Peptogest, a type of peppermint in capsule form. Didn't try that yet, though. Tex, I did go out and get some chicken soup. I will try keeping some light foods like that on hand. Sometimes I get a hankering for Cup of Noodles, even though it probably isn't good for you.

Andi, my gastro doc seems more sympathetic than yours, as they were more than willing to get me the prescription for Phenergan. He really tends to listen to me more than a lot of docs do. Andi and Joe, my doc believes it is more than "a little diarrhea". He even has a man with MC that had to have an ostomy done because nothing worked to control his D.

Marliss, I think I will get some of those heat wraps for my tummy next time, Thermacare menstrual ones would probably be good to try. I now have candied ginger in my locker at work.

Welcome, mizzle!

Another question, please. My rheumatologist from Johns Hopkins said there are rare cases where MC can evolve into Crohn's disease. There are several articles on the internet about it, but they were too complicated to understand. Has anyone ever heard of this? I hope this is not what is happening to me!
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littlemary wrote:Another question, please. My rheumatologist from Johns Hopkins said there are rare cases where MC can evolve into Crohn's disease. There are several articles on the internet about it, but they were too complicated to understand. Has anyone ever heard of this? I hope this is not what is happening to me!
We all have approximately the same risk of developing Crohn's disease as anyone else in the general population with the same genes. MC does not make us immune to any other IBD. Therefore, rather than MC evolving into Crohn's, (or UC), I think that it is more likely that some people are just unlucky enough to develop both diseases. Joe, for example, has both diseases. His MC did not segue into Crohns - he still has it. Those case studies on the internet are based on circumstantial evidence. There is no way that they can prove that one IBD "evolves" into another. That's strictly speculation, and it happens so rarely, that it can probably be predicted with the mathematics of probability. I'm just guessing, of course, but so are they. The main difference is that they don't admit that they are guessing - they pretend to be presenting concrete facts.

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Thanks, Tex, for the Crohn's/MC connection. I was thinking the same thing. Probably another research group with clipboards trying to sound important!
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Thank you all for the welcome :smile:

It's very hard to find help here in NZ, most people here have never heard of LC, MC, CC etc..so anyone who has it just has to get on with it best way you can.

Luckily theres so much info on the net, especially this forum, but as we all know, what works for one doesn't for someone else :sad:
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mizzle, Tex knows best, but I have done a lot of research into this disease, and would love to help anyway I can. There is such a lot of info on this discussion board also. It is so helpful! Just know that MC is just not a little inconvenience, like a lot of info you find on the net. It can be very debilitating and very systemic, accompanied by severe arthritic symptoms, uveitis, etc. A lot of the stuff I read seem to say that it can be cured with a little Pepto-Bismol. What a load of crap! (no pun intended). My doctor takes it very seriously, so I lucked out in that respect. Good luck to you!
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Mizzle,

No point worrying about not finding people in Kiwiland who know about MC. You won't find many people anywhere who know about it. :ROFL:

This group has accumulated it's knowledge from hundreds of mc'ers and come up with ideas about what most commonly helps our members. But very few of us have been lucky enough to find doctors who understand the condition. Rarer still that they support our findings.

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