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HI Lulu;

Yes, even after you have sent a post, just click on edit in the top right corner, and you can correct your errors. I do it frequently because i have these dyslexic fingers that reverse letters!!

I love pork, and I eat a lot of it too, and have to agree with you, I find it much more flavourful than a steak. When we were down in Coeure D'Laine last weekend we went to a little BBQ place called Porgy's and for the the first time in my life I had REAL Southern pulled pork and it was FANTASTIC! (I'm Canadian and we don't have it in restaurants here .. gotta make it at home.) Anyhow, I didn't eat the corn bread of course, but I did have the delicious red potatoe salad that came with the pork , and the whole meal didn't bother me at all. The next night we went to an Outback restaurant for dinner and I had .. you guessed it.. the BQ pork ribs. Again, I never reacted. In fact, amazingly, I ate out the whole weekend and never got sick! That's gotta be a first for me.

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Thanks Lynn & Linda, you're both so helpful. I thought the last two days I'd been doing better, but is this perplexing or what?! I HAVE quit having D several times daily for the last 2 days, maybe that's all I can hope for now, as did have D both morn's. after getting up, then at night again, a couple hrs. after eating. This time I passed what looks like to me embryo shrimp & same color as shrimp,plus the colored water as usual, and that's what I passed when taking the slower parasite cleanse, only they were a bit bigger then.

Lynn, you said white rice? I thought brown rice? So, white rice at the first, as easier on the gut? I've been reading as much as I've had time for, but obviously need to read more, :grin: fast. For dinner tonight, I fixed brown rice, cooked onions in them & snow peas sauteed in with the onions, & a little garlic & also bacon, but turkey bacon, as that's what I had in frig, being used to buying that when my hubby had to be on low fat foods. Breakfast was an egg in coconut oil, GF bread toasted and half of a grapefruit, which I thought I was tolerating well. I've been eating a banana a day also. I am frustratated, but like you said, guess I'll have to make it even simpler. I also ate a small handfull of flaked coconut, forgot about that. Been craving anything coconut. So here I am, empty gut again, no Norman, but at least didn't have D more than the 2 times, which is an improvement. I'll try my best tomorrow to eat more bland then, and use the white rice & not put onions, etc, in it...?

Linda, I have to go out to eat for lunch next week a couple of times, but going to eat at the GF restaurants, so will still have to take it pretty easy. We have most of the GF restaurants here & I found a group online also from here, that keeps everyone up on the GF restaurants & they are mostly Celiac from what I read & even had a get together with Chefs, GF venders that I assume come here to Wal Mart Gen. HQ & then met w/ the group, so maybe they'll have that again this summer & can go.

I did get hold of my Gastro Dr's. office today & made an appt. for Mar. 2, but don't expect much help there, as meds seem to be the answer there. I did ask if he uses or would use Enterolab & his nurse said no, he didn't & won't. So....looks like I'll be ordering tests myself sometime next week. :sad:
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Lulu

The difference between brown rice and white rice is that white rice is made from brown rice, by polishing off the hull. Most of the fiber is in the hull, so brown rice has much more fiber than white rice, which is why many of us seem to have problems if we eat very much of it.

Of course, most of the nutrients in rice are also in the hull, so they are lost when the hull is removed. That's why most white rice is "enriched", by adding nutrients back, after it is polished.

It's a shame that your doctor is unaware of the benefits of Enterolab testing, but unfortunately, that seems to be very common among GI docs - they have a long way to go to get up to speed, when it comes to treating MC.

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Thanks Tex for explaining about the rice. I guess I just thought for some reason that the healthier rice would maybe be one of the easier fibers on MC. Guess we have to get a whole new mindset, huh?

I may wait until I go to the Dr. to order the tests from Enterolab, hoping to get him to change his mind, since my appt. isn't too far off, but I have a feeling he won't. It's the same old fight I've had all along I imagine, with Dr's. & their attitudes about sugar, the whole diet, etc, and no treatment except meds. So frustrating.

I just can't figure out the very small coral colored things I passed. Anyone else had a similar experience there? It could've been rice hulls, but not that color at all, and the same color as before, only smaller, BUT about the same size as a rice hull. When I read somewhere on here that we peek into the stools, I had to laugh. Who would've thought we'd get to this! :roll:

I guess back to the white rice. I have stopped my EFA's to see if that helps. I'd forgotten to say I think anyway, that I took a good brand of liquid minerals...stopped those also, but kind of got worried & took a dose of that yesterday. Looks like malabsorption would be easy for us to get while stopping these things for awhile & still having D? Just thinking about all of it & mulling it all over in my mind, I guess. I can't seem to get all of those things we've been told out of my mind about good fiber, white flours, etc, for heart disease prevention, etc. I almost cried while throwing out the whole wheat pasta from the pantry to give to someone else. Kept some for when my children come, but had a bunch. Spagetti is a favorite in our family, will have to cook some for when they come & fix my own for me. It's been so long since I cooked this way. My daughter seemed to outgrow it & was so relieved to not have to cook that way anymore for one person. New world again. I suspect though, she'll have trouble again & also her kids, as they seem to have a few problems that she hasn't figured out as yet & don't think she wants to go there w/ this thought, remembering her own experiences, barely.
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Lulu, I made the same mistake with the brown rice, too, thinking it would be "better" for me. That is great that you have the group who keep information up to date on GF restaurants. I hope your lunches out next week go well.

My hunch is that the shrimp like things are proabably something you ate that didn't get digested. I am doing well these days and having no D. but yesterday I found a totally undigested pumpkin seed, so it makes sense that, if you are having D. , lots of food would not be able to get digested. Recently I read someowhere that most ( normal) people cannot digest corn and it goes right through them, too.

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