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Question about reaction time

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Which foods seem to have the fastest reaction time as far as cramping and D are concerned? I find that I start feeling ill even before my meal is completed. I am not sure if it is from a prior meal or from the one I am eating at the time. Any ideas?

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Hi PeggyAnn, it seems that for a number of us we can get reactions in as little as 10 minutes. My average time for gluten or soy is about 20 minutes. My first symptoms are usually pain in my joints and muscles.

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Thank you for the information. It is very interesting and enlightening. My husband and daughter did not understand how I could be reacting so quickly.

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It doesn't even have to be gluten, soy, or dairy for me to react. If I'm flairing, I react to anything like I am now. And yes, 10 to 30 minutes is about the right time frame.
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Yep--I am one of the unfortunates that have extreme nausea when flaring. If I react to something, I can vomit with zero warning...I used to have to carry a big plastic cup in my car for such occasions. Try driving in Atlanta traffic while barfing into a cup-I now have a new talent!

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With such fast responses, other issues may be involved, such as mast cells, because in that short of a time interval, the food shouldn't even be ready to leave the stomach, let alone be entering the colon. According to the definition of the disease, MC is a disease of the colon, (only). Obviously, with such reactions, the entire GI tract is involved, otherwise, the colon would have no way of "knowing" that you ate something that it is sensitive to, hours before it arrived in the colon. Normally, it takes several hours for any food to reach the colon.

Clearly, then, the definition of MC is incorrect. Since what you describe is a very common reaction, however, I'm inclined to think that mast cell involvement is a very common problem, with MC. IMO, mast cells are the medium by which the reaction is initiated, in such situations where the response occurs in a matter of minutes, rather than hours.

For those who do not have mast cell involvement, the reaction typically begins about 4 to 6 hours after the food is ingested, (IOW, about the time it begins to arrive in the colon).

Note that this is only my opinion - it's definitely not the opinion of the medical community. (For most GI docs, mast cells aren't even on their radar).

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Thanks for all this information. Right now I feel as though breathing air gives me a flare-up. I felt ok after dinner. Then some nausea, then cramping then D. Now, I feel very itchy on my right arm and shoulder. Another day and more learned and discovering so much more I still have to learn.

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That itching is a clear indication of a mast cell problem. You definitely have mast cell issues. You should give some serious thought to following a diet low in histamines, and low in foods that trigger the release of histamines in the body, (in addition to avoiding any other food sensitivities that you may have).

You can get some temporary relief by taking an H1 type antihistamine with your meals, and some patients find that taking Gastrocrom, (cromolyn sodium) helps to reduce the degranulation of mast cells, but the most effective solution is diet control, to prevent or at least minimize the reactions, in the first place.

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I had a bariem enema test 10 years ago to measure travel time in my colon. Everyone in the hospital was shocked as the bariem traveled so fast thru my colon. It took an average of 1 1/2hours transit time for the entire test. They said most people travel time is 6 hours or longer.

I have had to get up from the table and run to the bathroom, and in the very beginning, I was so sick, I practically had to eat while sitting on the toilet. It was terrible.
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Khale that sounds familiar, last March before my colonoscopy I had to do the barium swallow test for an upper GI series. Within 12 minutes I HAD to run to the bathroom. Apparently that was the fastest they had seen, things were pretty irritated then

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