Tired soon after eating rice - coincidence?

Gabes-Apg · Post by **Gabes-Apg** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 2:57 pm

I have managed to tweak my eating plan so it is not soo High with the high acid foods, i am favouring the vegetables that are in the mid range

I am taking a potassium based powder that is called 'gastric buffer' it is for gerd symptoms and also for atheletes doing triathelons and the like to minimise acid issues and vomitting
http://www.gettahealth.com.au/orthoplex ... uffer.html

I am also having lemon juice with warm water, 3 times a day, this is cheap and doesnt mean having to change my diet totally

Gabes-Apg · Post by **Gabes-Apg** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 3:02 pm

Testing PH

there are strips you can buy, i got them via my naturopath, I am sure you can buy them online
(http://www.phteststrip.net/)

they work for urine and/or saliva, the kit comes with a colour guide so what ever colour the strip goes is your ph level

Kari, the past week has been like finishing a huge jig saw puzzle, finally the picture became clear and things made sense, the improvement in how i feel with just a week of slight ingredient changes, frequent small amounts of lemon water and the gastric buffer.

Kari · Post by **Kari** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 3:57 pm

Gabes - that's totally amazing - good for you!!! I'm right behind you and will report back on how I do.

Love,
Kari

rsfarm · Post by **rsfarm** » Thu Apr 21, 2011 12:49 pm

Sara

I agree I think the tiredness is somehow related to the starches in rice. The more rice I eat the more tired I become. If I just eat a little bit it is no problem, and it is mainly at night. I really need to add more vegetables to my diet but many seem to make my MC worse.

As to the magnesium, I do apply magnesium oil topically to control my restless leg syndrome. It costs about $10 per bottle on Amazon. Magnesium pills irritate my stomach to much. I also take potassium pills. I do both night and day. Like others have mentioned, when I am on trips sitting a lot, the problem gets worse. My doctor is watching my potassium levels. I also noticed my hair loss stopped after taking magnesium topically and seems to be getting thicker.

irisheyes13 · Post by **irisheyes13** » Thu Apr 21, 2011 3:14 pm

This thread has taken an interesting direction regarding pH. I have also begun incorporating lemon in my water the past several weeks for the sole reason of adding some interest to water. I hope I am reaping the added benefits of a less acidic diet.

I seem to be sensitive to rice and have eliminated it a few weeks ago. It may have already been mentioned but rice, in particular white rice, has a very high glycemic index and could cause some people to become sleepy or sluggish after blood sugars take a nose dive sometimes causing (functional) hypoglycemia for a period of time. I know I'm very sensitive to this happening when I eat high glycemic foods.

Gabes,

I love following your holistic approach to MC and your many faceted directions in which you are wrestling this MC monkey! Keep sharing your thoughts please! It's so encouraging to see how much you've improved -yay!!

sarkin · Post by **sarkin** » Thu Apr 21, 2011 4:17 pm

Kelly,

That's interesting you mention this today, and I should have made the connection myself. I was just commenting to my husband last night on the general energy level I'm enjoying with this grain-free lifestyle. I seem to wake up more awake and need less sleep, and have fewer ups and downs during the day in terms of energy.

It could be because I'm feeling less horrible, but if it keeps up, I think I'll keep grains to a minimum even if my Enterolab results say they're relatively OK.

I'm curious about the magnesium oil. I love the idea of making sure I'm getting enough magnesium without the risks of taking it internally. I'm going to see whether I can get it nearby...

Sara

Post by **tex** » Thu Apr 21, 2011 8:05 pm

If I recall correctly, Joan experimented with adding it to bath water, in metered doses, for measured periods of soaking time.

Tex

sarkin · Post by **sarkin** » Thu Apr 21, 2011 8:36 pm

Wow, metered *and* measured!

I wish I behaved more like that in the kitchen. And I am not at all sorry that we remodeled the bathtub out of the bathroom so my mom could move in, but maybe a twinge of regret at the bathroom project of the future... till it's done.

I'll read up on Joan's experience - my local pharmacist says the porosity of skin is very variable (by age, for example... and that there's "no way" you could make up for a significant magnesium deficit in this manner. He was unaware that there's a transdermal magnesium 'wave' going on, but certainly knew that Mg can be absorbed through the skin. To my mind, both could be true - maybe you absorb some, maybe not enough to address a serious deficiency?

Thanks,

Sara

Post by **tex** » Thu Apr 21, 2011 9:42 pm

Hot water opens the pores. When you're itching like mad, after installing fiberglass insulation all day, soaking in a hot tub, (or a hot shower), is your key to relief. I have to admit that I'm a shower fan, myself.

Sara wrote:To my mind, both could be true - maybe you absorb some, maybe not enough to address a serious deficiency?

Because of the fact that magnesium is a laxative, it's very difficult to take a full RDA orally, without triggering D.

The trick is to use an absorption enhancer, (I believe that's the correct term for a product designed to increase chemical absorption rates through the skin, but maybe I'm using corrupt nomenclature, here.) I would assume that the more effective transdermal products utilize such an ingredient, to enhance their performance.

Tex

sarkin · Post by **sarkin** » Fri Apr 22, 2011 6:43 am

In my experience, a hot shower can cure *almost* anything - I'm sure you're right about the transdermal products attempting to optimize absorption. Getting "some" via skin seems like a fine idea. I have heard that some types of oral magnesium supplements are less likely to cause D, but that's not an experiment I'm willing to undertake just now ;)

We eliminated our bathtub to refit the bathroom when my mother moved in... a cousin of mine is a big fan of hot springs - I bet she'll know which have waters higher in magnesium than others. That kind of experiment could be in my future...

Sara

MBombardier · Post by **MBombardier** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 9:40 pm

http://www.foodphilosopher.com/

I have all three of this gal's cookbooks. The "good health" one deals specifically withe acid/alkaline issue, and how to cook for it.

Mags · Post by **Mags** » Sun Apr 24, 2011 7:54 am

Sara--

I just had to jump in here when you mentioned your pharmacist. My beloved doctor (without whom I would be a gibbering skeleton locked in a closet with a couple of buckets) has a sister who is a pharmacist. On family holidays, they need to be separated from each other, as she will try to tell him that everything he is doing is "wrong", according to what she "knows". He and I giggle about it, as I occasionally have to go a few rounds when I change pharmacists, because they also seem to think that the meds I am on don't make sense. Frequently, they are working from a limited or outdated knowledge base, but are in a position of power over others, exacerbated by people constantly asking medical questions of them, to which they feel obligated to give an answer, even if they don't really know.

This saddens me on a personal level, because one of the sweetest men that ever lived was my great-uncle, who was a pharmacist. He was the first person in the state of Georgia to go to college on the state scholarship for the deaf. He worked in my hometown for so many years, and kept up with the medical literature to the extent that he earned the nickname "Doc". He died in service to the city as a councilman, and has the rec center and a park named after him. There are many other great things to say about him, but one thing he never did was give an opinion he did not know the real answer to.

Love,

Mags

sarkin · Post by **sarkin** » Sun Apr 24, 2011 9:56 am

Your great-uncle sounds like a wonderful man.

Some doctors are wonderful, and some are operating from a limited/outdated knowledge base, like the pharmacists you've encountered who think your doctor's wrong. Some pharmacists, too, can be wonderfully wise and helpful... I think it's human nature to start thinking you know more than you know, once you know an awful lot.

I have a cousin with a rare autoimmune disorder, who takes a strange mix of medications. He and his doctor collaborate on it, to a degree I think is rare. That cooperative relationship is hard to find, and so important once found.

I hope I will soon have a doctor as wonderful as yours on my team. I'm going to start by bringing my Enterolab results (once I get them) to my PCP, and see how things go from there. I hope she'll be curious. I know I am!

Love,
Sara

rsfarm · Post by **rsfarm** » Tue May 17, 2011 8:30 pm

I saw my doctor and asked him why I am so fatigued after eating a rice. He said that if you eat a large amount of starchy food without fat or protein the pancreas will produce to much insulin. This eventually results in the fatigued feeling. Since I am eating very low fat, he recommended eating more protein or and starch during meals to reduce this problem.

Post by **tex** » Tue May 17, 2011 9:24 pm

Well, actually, the solution to that problem should be to eat more protein, more fat, and less starch, (carbohydrates). Carbs, (not fat), cause insulin production. Why are you eating less fat in the first place? If you're trying to lose weight, or control diabetes, recent research shows that eating carbs is counterproductive.

Tex