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- natythingycolbery
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Oh and Jen- not sure if this is something your GP
Would be open to, but my GP asked to see my results and refered me to a dietician on the NHS, unfortunately at the time I was moving back to uni so I fell through the system and I've never really thought about trying to get back into it until the past few months.
Would be open to, but my GP asked to see my results and refered me to a dietician on the NHS, unfortunately at the time I was moving back to uni so I fell through the system and I've never really thought about trying to get back into it until the past few months.
'The more difficulties one has to encounter, within and without, the more significant and the higher in inspiration his life will be.' Horace Bushnell
Diagnosed with MC (LC) Aug 2010
Diagnosed with MC (LC) Aug 2010
Hi Katy,
Thanks for clearing that up. I obviously misjudged them from the tone of the earlier posts. It's understandable that they would recommend working with a dietician, because that's the medically proper way to go about it. It's just a pity that dieticians don't understand how to treat MC patients.
Here in the U.S., dieticians who understand how to treat IBD patients are available, but unfortunately their recommendations are generally worthless and even counterproductive for treating MC patients. We have many members who have posted about wasting their money on consultations with dieticians associated with a similar lab (that does MRT testing) here in this country.
Tex
Thanks for clearing that up. I obviously misjudged them from the tone of the earlier posts. It's understandable that they would recommend working with a dietician, because that's the medically proper way to go about it. It's just a pity that dieticians don't understand how to treat MC patients.
Here in the U.S., dieticians who understand how to treat IBD patients are available, but unfortunately their recommendations are generally worthless and even counterproductive for treating MC patients. We have many members who have posted about wasting their money on consultations with dieticians associated with a similar lab (that does MRT testing) here in this country.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Tex, there is no one more cynical than me................tex wrote:Maybe that type of telephone sales solicitations is accepted and common in the UK, but here in the States it would be considered to be an overly aggressive sales tactic
Tex
I'm one of those souls people don't forget and sometimes try to avoid because of my very direct engagement and the questions I invariably ask about every aspect of every proposal.
In the UK there are very strict codes of conduct for online sales, sales made in our homes and a number of consumer bodies protecting the general public. I'm one of the less than 1% of people who do regularly give companies feedback and make complaints. I'm fair and always take the stance of "if this happened to a vulnerable person" with companies.
If any staff at YT appear to act inappropriately they will certainly live to regret it.
As it is I will be questioning their policy of providing an alternative health nutritionist when in fact they appear to be conventional medical laboratory doing allergy testing. Some people seek non-traditional medicine, faith healing etc. but when I sent for the York Test I certainly didn't get the impression they belonged to the alternative medicine fraternity. That point needs clarifying because they may well be falling foul of the advertising laws by misrepresenting themselves.
No need to be concerned Tex........I'm not about to ruin the progress I have made by taking in judicious advice medical or otherwise.
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Hello Katy..........natythingycolbery wrote:Oh and Jen- not sure if this is something your GP
Would be open to, but my GP asked to see my results and refered me to a dietician on the NHS, unfortunately at the time I was moving back to uni so I fell through the system and I've never really thought about trying to get back into it until the past few months.
My GP practice has a poster on the wall that says gives patients the following advice:
SELFCARE : Hangovers, cough & sore throat.
NHS 111 : need help deciding where to get appropriate healthcare.
PHARMACY - Your pharmacy can help with the following: Bites, stings, conjunctivitis, cough, sore throat, colds, constipation, cystitis, diarrhoea, emergency contraception, headache, head lice, hay fever, and allergies.
DENTIST : toothache, gum problems.
GP SURGERY : minor injuries (excluding broken bones), urine infections, rashes, ear pain,sexual health matters, travel health advice.
ACCIDENT & EMERGENCY : choking, chest pain, suspected stroke, blacking out, blood loss.
As you see from the above the GP would say allergies are not in his remit - all the years he hasn't showed any interest in my wanting to have allergy testing and visit an allergy specialist. It's bonkers, but that is what the NHS is imo. It's not fit for purpose and quite honestly I'm not even sure that GP's are that necessary given they are only interested in UTI's, rashes, earache, sexual health and giving injections for travel. My GP's office takes appointments from 9am - 3.40pm. How's that for a short working day.
I'm not going to bother him with the details. Our consultations are 7-9 mins so there isn't really time. Private GP's are non-existent where I live.
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- natythingycolbery
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Jen maybe I didn't make my point clearly, but I meant contact your GP with the results to ask to be refered to a specialist dietician who deals with allergies/intolerance etc. Unless you can self refer to a dietician in your area who specialises in this area? GPs are general points of contact for the majority of other services including dieticians, if they aren't helping you pursue these avenues then they are not doing their job correctly.
'The more difficulties one has to encounter, within and without, the more significant and the higher in inspiration his life will be.' Horace Bushnell
Diagnosed with MC (LC) Aug 2010
Diagnosed with MC (LC) Aug 2010
Katy.........
I did understand what you said, sorry I am a bit peeved because over the past five years I have asked for a referral to a dietitian and I have been fobbed off even though I go private for most things. The GI specialist said he would refer me to a dietitian just a couple if weeks ago butbthat hasn't been forthcoming either.
I wrote to a private dietitian near me and received a one liner to say she was too busy with corporate and manufacturing clients to have private clients - I was annoyed with her because her website "pretends" she is working from home seeing patients and clients when clearly she's working in the business sector. I think there are very few registered dietitians and corporate clients pay better hourly rates.
I'll see what York offer in that way - it might be an interesting exercise to listen and make a decision afterwards. I'll let you know what happens - the results are due in Tuesday this week.
Don't mind me I'm grumpy today.
I did understand what you said, sorry I am a bit peeved because over the past five years I have asked for a referral to a dietitian and I have been fobbed off even though I go private for most things. The GI specialist said he would refer me to a dietitian just a couple if weeks ago butbthat hasn't been forthcoming either.
I wrote to a private dietitian near me and received a one liner to say she was too busy with corporate and manufacturing clients to have private clients - I was annoyed with her because her website "pretends" she is working from home seeing patients and clients when clearly she's working in the business sector. I think there are very few registered dietitians and corporate clients pay better hourly rates.
I'll see what York offer in that way - it might be an interesting exercise to listen and make a decision afterwards. I'll let you know what happens - the results are due in Tuesday this week.
Don't mind me I'm grumpy today.
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- natythingycolbery
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The York Test results came today. They operate a traffic light system. I must admit some of the items are a surprise because I have used the extensively and do love them. I tried the Cinnamon Rice Chex but stopped eating them because they were too sweet. I eat fish so will miss the lemon.
RED : REACTION
Cinnamon/clove
gluten (gliadin)
olives
melon mix
plum
lime
kiwi
YELLOW : BORDERLINE
almond
buckwheat
coconut
grape (concord)
walnut
yeast
NO REACTION
acai berry, agave, anise seed, apple, apricot, asparagus, aubergine, avaocado, banana, barley/ malt mix, beef, beetroot, bilberry,blackberry, black currant, blueberry, boysenberry, brazil, carob, carrot, cashew, celery, chamomile, cherry, chicken, chillinpowder, cocoa bean, coffee, cola nut, coriander/cumin/dill, corn (maize), cows milk, cranberry, crustacean mix, cucumber, dandelion/ burdock, duck, egg white, egg yolk, elderberry/elderflower, garlic, ginger, ginseng/ Korean/Siberian mix, grape/cabernet sauvignon, chardonnay, chennin blanc, malbec, merlot, pinot gris/grigio, pinot noir, red/white zinfandel mix, riesling, sauvignon blanc, shiraz, grapefruit, green tea, guarana, haricot bean, hazelnut, hemp, hibiscus, hops, juniper, kidney bean, lamb, lentils, lettuce, lychee, mango, millet, mint mix, mollusc mix, mulberry, mushroom, mustard mix, mustard seed, nettle, nutmeg/peppercorn, oak, oat, oily fish, onion, orange, papaya, parsley, pea, peach, peanut, pear, peppers (capsicum)/paprika, pineapple, plaice/sole, pomegranate, pork, potato, prune, raspberry, rhubarb, rice, rooibis tea (redbush tea), rosehip, rye, salmon/trout, sesame seed, soya bean, spinach, strawberry, string bean, sugar cane, sunflower seed, tea, tomato, tuna, turkey, vanilla, wheat, white fish mix.
DRINKS GUIDE:
DRINK - CONTAINING
Alcoholic drinks - yeast
Juices - kiwi, lemon, lime, watermlon, honeydew, cantaloup, plum, grape/concord.
Smoothies & shakes - kiwi, watermelon, honeydew, cantaloup mix, plum.
Teas - kiwi, lemon, lime, watermelon, honeydew, cantaloup mic, plum, cinnamon/clove.
Milk based drinks - Coconut, almond.
Coffee - Almond
Beers ( lager/bitter/ale) - gluten (gliadin)
Whiskey/Bourbon based drinks - gluten (gliadin)
Malted milk/cereal drinks - gluten (gliadin)
Stout - gluten (gliadin)
Vodka based drinks - gluten (gliadin)
Brandy based drinks - grape concord
Lemonade - lemon
Limoncello - lemon
Ameretto - almond
Rum - coconut
Coconut water - coconut
Schnapps - cinnamon/clove
Raki - grape concord
Sherry - grape concord
Port - grape concord
Cordials - lime, lemon.
RED : REACTION
Cinnamon/clove
gluten (gliadin)
olives
melon mix
plum
lime
kiwi
YELLOW : BORDERLINE
almond
buckwheat
coconut
grape (concord)
walnut
yeast
NO REACTION
acai berry, agave, anise seed, apple, apricot, asparagus, aubergine, avaocado, banana, barley/ malt mix, beef, beetroot, bilberry,blackberry, black currant, blueberry, boysenberry, brazil, carob, carrot, cashew, celery, chamomile, cherry, chicken, chillinpowder, cocoa bean, coffee, cola nut, coriander/cumin/dill, corn (maize), cows milk, cranberry, crustacean mix, cucumber, dandelion/ burdock, duck, egg white, egg yolk, elderberry/elderflower, garlic, ginger, ginseng/ Korean/Siberian mix, grape/cabernet sauvignon, chardonnay, chennin blanc, malbec, merlot, pinot gris/grigio, pinot noir, red/white zinfandel mix, riesling, sauvignon blanc, shiraz, grapefruit, green tea, guarana, haricot bean, hazelnut, hemp, hibiscus, hops, juniper, kidney bean, lamb, lentils, lettuce, lychee, mango, millet, mint mix, mollusc mix, mulberry, mushroom, mustard mix, mustard seed, nettle, nutmeg/peppercorn, oak, oat, oily fish, onion, orange, papaya, parsley, pea, peach, peanut, pear, peppers (capsicum)/paprika, pineapple, plaice/sole, pomegranate, pork, potato, prune, raspberry, rhubarb, rice, rooibis tea (redbush tea), rosehip, rye, salmon/trout, sesame seed, soya bean, spinach, strawberry, string bean, sugar cane, sunflower seed, tea, tomato, tuna, turkey, vanilla, wheat, white fish mix.
DRINKS GUIDE:
DRINK - CONTAINING
Alcoholic drinks - yeast
Juices - kiwi, lemon, lime, watermlon, honeydew, cantaloup, plum, grape/concord.
Smoothies & shakes - kiwi, watermelon, honeydew, cantaloup mix, plum.
Teas - kiwi, lemon, lime, watermelon, honeydew, cantaloup mic, plum, cinnamon/clove.
Milk based drinks - Coconut, almond.
Coffee - Almond
Beers ( lager/bitter/ale) - gluten (gliadin)
Whiskey/Bourbon based drinks - gluten (gliadin)
Malted milk/cereal drinks - gluten (gliadin)
Stout - gluten (gliadin)
Vodka based drinks - gluten (gliadin)
Brandy based drinks - grape concord
Lemonade - lemon
Limoncello - lemon
Ameretto - almond
Rum - coconut
Coconut water - coconut
Schnapps - cinnamon/clove
Raki - grape concord
Sherry - grape concord
Port - grape concord
Cordials - lime, lemon.
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- natythingycolbery
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Do they also score 4-1 in terms of reaction? Because mine were coloured and numbered. Although I did t 3 and a half years ago!
'The more difficulties one has to encounter, within and without, the more significant and the higher in inspiration his life will be.' Horace Bushnell
Diagnosed with MC (LC) Aug 2010
Diagnosed with MC (LC) Aug 2010
Not as far as I can see......Katy,natythingycolbery wrote:Do they also score 4-1 in terms of reaction? Because mine were coloured and numbered. Although I did t 3 and a half years ago!
Thanks for taking an interest in my tests
I receiced an A-4 sheet with three columns - red, yellow, green. Red is reaction, yellow borderline and green no reaction. The second page is lbelled Drinks Guide. I don't see any reference to 1 - 4.
I have decided to eliminate all the reds and yellow items on the York Test and the other test and see how things progress for me. This still gives me a good selection of food i cn eat nd enjoy. I'm not rushing to have the phone call, maybe next week.
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- natythingycolbery
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I'll see if I can dig out my results and share what mine looks like, it'll be interesting to see how they are different. But it is possible my test was different to yours, I think I might have done a different test with them but I can't fully remember.
'The more difficulties one has to encounter, within and without, the more significant and the higher in inspiration his life will be.' Horace Bushnell
Diagnosed with MC (LC) Aug 2010
Diagnosed with MC (LC) Aug 2010
Jen,
To post a photo, click on the "post reply" button (rather than using the quick reply window), and when you get to the place where you want to add an image in your message, click on the "Add image to post" link (just below the message window on the left side), and the system will pop up a window where you can browse to the image file on your computer. Click on the image file to select it, mark the "Family safe" selection and then click on the "Upload It!" button, and the system will automatically place the necessary code in your message. When reading your post, viewers can click on the thumbnail in your post to see an enlarged image, if they choose to do so (provided that the image uploaded is larger than the displayed thumbnail).
Tex
To post a photo, click on the "post reply" button (rather than using the quick reply window), and when you get to the place where you want to add an image in your message, click on the "Add image to post" link (just below the message window on the left side), and the system will pop up a window where you can browse to the image file on your computer. Click on the image file to select it, mark the "Family safe" selection and then click on the "Upload It!" button, and the system will automatically place the necessary code in your message. When reading your post, viewers can click on the thumbnail in your post to see an enlarged image, if they choose to do so (provided that the image uploaded is larger than the displayed thumbnail).
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Thanks Tex......
Let me try now! Yay, it worked.
I love photographs here's the first of many.
Tomorrow I'll photograph or scan my results and post. It took ages to copy it all out laboriously.
Let me try now! Yay, it worked.
I love photographs here's the first of many.
Tomorrow I'll photograph or scan my results and post. It took ages to copy it all out laboriously.
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