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Vanessa · Post by **Vanessa** » Sun Mar 19, 2017 10:48 pm

Hey Laine,

FWIW, I used topical mag for two years plus 400 mg oral mag and did not notice benefits with heart palps/skipping, insomnia, etc. Some of us need therapeutic doses of ReMag to get benefits. In the range of 600 mg orally. I've been on this dose for a year now.If you haven't read Dr. Dean's free download on re mineralizing the heart, might be worth a read. She won an award in the U.K. for her work with A fib. I hope your shakiness improves, I know what that feeling is like....

HockeyMom · Post by **HockeyMom** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 7:58 am

Thanks Vanessa. I just don't know what to think at this point...not like I've added stuff into my diet other than trying canned pears or peaches (not in heavy syrup or anything..) in small doses on occasion.

I'm just wondering if I am making things worse by ramping up the oral magnesium too fast. I cut out the 100mg tab of Drs Best Mag glycinate last week thinking that may be irritating me but kept up the ReMag and all the daily topical stuff. Geez, you can drive yourself crazy with all this!!!

Plus this whole weekend I just felt CRAPPY and what I would say (with all my YEARS of woman experience....) CRAMPY with what should have been a period starting in a big way....well, TMI but just sort of spotting/light stuff. I really wish I would just fall off the cliff into menopause already. Sitting here right now, I would just tell you I'm dealing with menstrual cramps....which has always messed up my gut from the get go.

Had thought I was sleeping better but feel like that has run off the track again also. Have even taken to running my essential oil diffuser in my room at night with lavender oil in it to help!!! Usually a Benedryl assures me sleep, took one last night and don't feel like I slept all that well.

Laine

Post by **tex** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:15 am

Laine,

I hear you. When nothing seems to work the way it should, stepping back and analyzing the situation sometimes helps. I'm still waiting on a cardiologist's report about the monitor I sent in a week ago. In the meantime I've had good days and bad days (breathing difficulties, occasional light-headedness, low heart rate, etc.). I've tried increasing my magnesium intake (going from 300 mg of magnesium glycinate back up to 500 mg). And I've tried cutting it back to 300 mg. Taking more magnesium seems to help my breathing, but that's usually followed by a bad day (or at least a less-good day).

Yesterday was not so good, but I forced myself to get by on 300 mg by sort of forcing myself to relax. Surprisingly, I had a good night's sleep last night. And while my heart isn't completely out of the woods today, at least my heart rate was in the low 60s (63) when I checked it. Yesterday it was 56. The reason I decided to cut my magnesium back is because magnesium not only reduces BP, but it can also reduce HR. Of course your problem is the opposite (tachycardia). Anyway, my point is that magnesium is known to affect (usually beneficially) neurological signaling, and that implies that it can affect the electrical signaling that regulates the heart.

I also stopped taking fexofenadine (Allegra) as soon as I noticed the arrythmia. If I recall correctly, the first of the second-generation antihistamines was a compound called terfenadine. But case studies soon showed that it was causing cardiac problems, primarily by prolonging the QT interval (which is part of the data monitored by an ECG test. Fexofenadine is an active metabolite of terfenadine that supposedly does not cause QT interval prolongation. My ECG data showed that my QT interval was normal. But the problem is that various combinations of supplements and medications can cause unanticipated issues, and surely all potential issues have not been documented in the medical literature. So just in case something undocumented is going on, I decided to avoid antihistamines for a while.

Benadryl (like many of the first-generation antihistamines) is thought to be capable of prolonging the QT interval, and it has also been associated with other cardiovascular risks under certain circumstances (such as overdose). So while it's probably not a big risk, it may carry a small risk of affecting the electrical signals that regulate the heart. If your QT interval is fine, and you don't have any Torsades de pointes indications on your ECG, then this may not be an issue.

I rarely hesitate at being a guinea pig when it comes to testing treatments for digestive system issues, but I'm a bit hesitant to do anything that might turn out to be risky when it comes to heart issues.

And of course hormonal issues can complicate one's situation even more.

Tex

Lou Ann · Post by **Lou Ann** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:08 pm

Tex,
I may have missed it somewhere, but have you had any other heart tests done besides the monitor..... Like an Eco or stress test?
I sure hope you feel better soon!!

Lou Ann

Gabes-Apg · Post by **Gabes-Apg** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:43 pm

Laine
Tex is thinking similar to me

And of course hormonal issues can complicate one's situation even more.

when I read your post, I was thinking about the amount of women here that their MC appeared when they were going through menopause. this maybe the case for you, the food triggers are part of it, but not all of it type thing.

It would be worth investigating things like the natural hormone creams. (I know some ladies here have used them)
Also of note is that zinc and B6 are key parts of helping to balance hormones. Are you taking any B6/P5P?

depending on your financial situation, it might be worth seeing if there is a local/available functional doctor who can help with testing hormone levels and provide natural support to reduce the stress on your body

Post by **tex** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 7:27 pm

Lou Ann wrote:Tex,
I may have missed it somewhere, but have you had any other heart tests done besides the monitor..... Like an Eco or stress test?
I sure hope you feel better soon!!

Lou Ann

No, no other tests. I'm not sure that a stress test would be helpful for an arrythmia (it's an electrical problem), but I'm just guessing.

Thanks,
Tex

HockeyMom · Post by **HockeyMom** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:53 pm

Gabes...not taking the B you are talking about. It just feels like the menstrual thing is not helping any of this....I feel like I have so many fires going right now that I'm having a hard time trying to figure out where to spray the water!!!

Have a cardiologist appt on Thursday, will get that done with then go from there. Stopped taking my daily zinc meltie last week thinking that may be a problem...

Laine

Lou Ann · Post by **Lou Ann** » Tue Mar 21, 2017 9:04 am

I'm not sure either Tex.....all I do know is that when I was diagnosed with PVC's I wore a monitor for 24 hours and it showed over 5000 of them....my cardiologist then did the other 2 tests either to make sure something else wasn't wrong OR just to do what some doctors do..

Tests!!!! She told me if I was having any pvc's during my stress test that was not good...but I didn't...they stop during exercise for some reason, maybe because my heart rate was so high...idk enough about it, nor did I ask. I hope you get your monitor results back soon....please let us know.

Lou Ann

Post by **tex** » Tue Mar 21, 2017 9:51 am

Lou Ann wrote:my cardiologist then did the other 2 tests either to make sure something else wasn't wrong OR just to do what some doctors do.. Tests!!!! She told me if I was having any pvc's during my stress test that was not good...but I didn't

That's one of the things about cardiologists that bothers me. Using a test that can lead to a fatal outcome seems rather counterproductive if you ask me. I can still remember when a doctor treating former Speaker of the House Tip O'Neill killed him with a stress test. Physicians seem to have forgotten that old Greek rule, “primum non nocere,” that was added to the Hippocratic Oath about 2,000 years ago — “first, do no harm”.

Still no news, but I seem to be doing better today. My BP is down from 123/71 to 114/69, and my heart rate is up from 63 (56 on the day before) to 70, today. I like those numbers a lot better.

Thanks,
Tex

Vanessa · Post by **Vanessa** » Tue Mar 21, 2017 11:03 am

Thinking of you Tex, wish I could provide more support to you like you have for me! But we are all here for moral support if need be

Big Love to you!

Janie · Post by **Janie** » Tue Mar 21, 2017 11:36 am

Happy to hear today is a better day with your heart rate, Tex. Ditto to what Vanessa says about the support you give us all.
Lou Ann, I threw PVC's like crazy too Until I was instructed to keep up with my Magnesium and 2 Liters of water during the day and more if I exercised. They have settled down. When they pop up and I feel them it usually a hot day and need more water. I had a battery of tests all normal except pvc's.

Erica P-G · Post by **Erica P-G** » Tue Mar 21, 2017 1:49 pm

HI Laine,

I would be a prime candidate that seemed to get hit hard with MC as Perimenopause hit me at age 40 and continued to make my life rough up until I was 48 when I got to Menopause and I was officially through Menopause at 49 and now I am about to be 50.

So I get it about the hormonal thing, it sounds like the adrenal glands need some support right now and I think eating lots of protein, sticking to my safe foods at all costs, paying close attention to my stress level and getting as many good night sleeps as possible helped me the most looking back on my last 24 months of healing. No time to be a Super Mom or Rock Star during this time...it will just wipe out any energy or healing you are trying to accomplish besides make you feel miserable. A bit of safe Progesterone cream (might be able to find it on IHerb or Vitacost, but a compounding pharmacy is the ideal option) sounds helpful at this time since your Estrogen is in major fluctuation.

Also getting my VitD3 levels up up up (they started out at 19 in 2011 and now in 2017 they are 83.6 Ya Hoo!!) and balanced with Magnesium was crucial also.

Rubbing Magnesium lotion or oil on your cramp area has potential to help

and it wont hurt.
Hugs
Erica

Erica P-G · Post by **Erica P-G** » Tue Mar 21, 2017 1:51 pm

Hi Tex,

I am right there with everyone else in regards to being here for you! Will continue to keep sending those healing thoughts your way, you are a wonderful soul, and I feel blessed to have crossed your path.

Take care,
Erica

Post by **tex** » Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:34 pm

Thank you Lou Ann, Vanessa, Janie, and Erica.

I appreciate your support.

Tex

Gabes-Apg · Post by **Gabes-Apg** » Tue Mar 21, 2017 3:34 pm

Laine
thinking about this further - the hormones could be a big reason why the medications and diet approach that has worked in the past for you, didnt work this time.

I get it about too many fires to put out, I was like that 3-4 years ago. multiple issues in chronic state, i wasnt able to work at all for over 9 months.
it was hard, mentally and emotionally. but you just have to hang in there, dont let the fires get any bigger, tend to each of them as best you can. and with time the fires to go out.
it took me 2 years to fix the nutritional deficiencies and imbalances that were the main cause of the fires and get them settled, and now 3 years later things are under control. This may not be the news you want to hear, 2 years seems a long time. Erica's situation is a great one to delve into and see what you can learn/embrace. Diet alone was not enough and it took time to 'balance' things for her body to start healing.
and sadly with the combo of age, and still trying to live life (work, family etc) healing takes time and patience.
Even for me, not working for 12 months, and working on fixing nutritional imbalances and healing, 3 years later I am till only working about 20-25 hours per week.
Living alone and only having to look after myself can have benefits, but then again on bad days/weeks it is tough emotionally to endure the challenges.

hope this helps