The coffee part was hard as I did have to switch to decaf, but I really enjoy that occasional glass of wine. Glad I found one I can tolerate.Experiences with the effects of wine?
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I too, looked for information about people’s experiences with wine, but didn’t see a lot. I suspect that many, by the time they are posting here are way too sick to drink it.
In my case it was my relaxation at the end of my day while I prepared dinner. I am a foodie to boot and I tend to be very habit oriented. The wine was tough to give up. I remember in 2016, when I was so sick and being treated for SIBO, my naturopath gave me “permission” to drink wine, by saying “if it doesn’t make you feel worse, then it’s ok”. I think he was just seeing that I wasn’t ready. You tend to feel those big feelings of loss when you have to give up the things that are so intertwined in daily life. Food and drink. Big ones!
I did give it up for about three months at one point, was disappointed that I didn’t lose any weight (I am one of the rare ones that this time around gained instead of lost)
But I think I finally realise now that wine on top of inflammation is not good (and too much wine is a disaster every time for me) so have put it on the shelf along with gluten, dairy, and eggs until I am well healed.
Bottom line, we all do what we can, when we can.
In my case it was my relaxation at the end of my day while I prepared dinner. I am a foodie to boot and I tend to be very habit oriented. The wine was tough to give up. I remember in 2016, when I was so sick and being treated for SIBO, my naturopath gave me “permission” to drink wine, by saying “if it doesn’t make you feel worse, then it’s ok”. I think he was just seeing that I wasn’t ready. You tend to feel those big feelings of loss when you have to give up the things that are so intertwined in daily life. Food and drink. Big ones!
I did give it up for about three months at one point, was disappointed that I didn’t lose any weight (I am one of the rare ones that this time around gained instead of lost)
But I think I finally realise now that wine on top of inflammation is not good (and too much wine is a disaster every time for me) so have put it on the shelf along with gluten, dairy, and eggs until I am well healed.
Bottom line, we all do what we can, when we can.
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This may be a new topic
I am on ancestry and 23andMe trying to find my paternal grandfather his birth parents. What I have found is my paternal grandmother Cassidy had a lot of auto immune problems. My father died from Type 1 diabetes at age 50 and some sort of diarrhea problems. His great grandfather Cassidy grandfather died from drink at age 34 and his gg grandfather died at age 25. My Cassidy group is really sad.
My paternal grandfather was healthy but not my grandmothers side. My Cassidy side died all young from drink and autoimmune diseases.
Have y'all had the same experiences with your ancestry and auto immune diseases?
My paternal grandfather was healthy but not my grandmothers side. My Cassidy side died all young from drink and autoimmune diseases.
Have y'all had the same experiences with your ancestry and auto immune diseases?
I haven’t done any ancestry testing, but I do know that a lot of my family on both sides had problems with alcohol addiction.
I had an uncle who died in his early 50’s from oesophageal cancer, he smoked and drank a lot. Another uncle died in his 70’s from alcohol induced Alzheimer’s. My Dad quit drinking almost 40 years ago.
The younger generation, some of them have struggled with drug addictions as well, both cases stemming from deep childhood trauma and abuse. I think that follows a lot of times for addiction, rather than genealogy. Not saying it isn’t in your genes. For sure I think that can be a component. So much we don’t know.
My sister who never drank heavily and hasn’t had a drink in over 20 years has three autoimmune diseases and also had to deal with triple negative breast cancer five years ago.
We do wonder about the gene connection there. We believe my Dad, who is in his 80’s may be suffering from gluten ataxia, he lost most motor function of his legs in two years with a “mysterious disease” that no doctor or specialist can figure out. We wonder if might have been a silent celiac sufferer all these years. Right up until he was 80 he rode between 40 and 60 km’s per day and now he can barely make it across a room with a walker!
I had an uncle who died in his early 50’s from oesophageal cancer, he smoked and drank a lot. Another uncle died in his 70’s from alcohol induced Alzheimer’s. My Dad quit drinking almost 40 years ago.
The younger generation, some of them have struggled with drug addictions as well, both cases stemming from deep childhood trauma and abuse. I think that follows a lot of times for addiction, rather than genealogy. Not saying it isn’t in your genes. For sure I think that can be a component. So much we don’t know.
My sister who never drank heavily and hasn’t had a drink in over 20 years has three autoimmune diseases and also had to deal with triple negative breast cancer five years ago.
We do wonder about the gene connection there. We believe my Dad, who is in his 80’s may be suffering from gluten ataxia, he lost most motor function of his legs in two years with a “mysterious disease” that no doctor or specialist can figure out. We wonder if might have been a silent celiac sufferer all these years. Right up until he was 80 he rode between 40 and 60 km’s per day and now he can barely make it across a room with a walker!
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All alcohol is inflammatory and interrupts methylation cycle.
So not ideal in early stage S of healing
I didn't drink for 3 years or more when I had multiple AI issues being symptomatic
Now with a reasonable healed body I can have small amounts, i favour anything that is gluten free, low preservatives etc. vodka lime and soda, low preservative wine/ bubbly
If planning to drink I increase key nutrients like B6, magnesium and Vit D3 to counteract impact of the alcohol.
Cynthia, pre MC I was a foodie, drank wine while preparing meals and was a bit of a dance on the tables party girl !!! Part of the healing journey is making these changes, and being ok mentally and emotionally with them.
So not ideal in early stage S of healing
I didn't drink for 3 years or more when I had multiple AI issues being symptomatic
Now with a reasonable healed body I can have small amounts, i favour anything that is gluten free, low preservatives etc. vodka lime and soda, low preservative wine/ bubbly
If planning to drink I increase key nutrients like B6, magnesium and Vit D3 to counteract impact of the alcohol.
Cynthia, pre MC I was a foodie, drank wine while preparing meals and was a bit of a dance on the tables party girl !!! Part of the healing journey is making these changes, and being ok mentally and emotionally with them.
Gabes Ryan
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Hello Gabes,
I was also "a foodie, drank wine while preparing meals and was a bit of a dance on the tables party girl!!!," along with my entire family. It has been quite the lifestyle change simmering all that down. I have had to work hard and change my thinking to be ok with parting with that part of me. I always had drank a little too much, so I knew I needed to cut back. The CC just gave me no choice!!
Glad you are back, seems like your buddies on here have been concerned about you. :-)
Eliza
I was also "a foodie, drank wine while preparing meals and was a bit of a dance on the tables party girl!!!," along with my entire family. It has been quite the lifestyle change simmering all that down. I have had to work hard and change my thinking to be ok with parting with that part of me. I always had drank a little too much, so I knew I needed to cut back. The CC just gave me no choice!!
Glad you are back, seems like your buddies on here have been concerned about you. :-)
Eliza
Good one Gabes
Haha, that gave me a chuckle Gabes, a dance on the table girl!
In the long ago past I drank more, my husband loved the lifestyle of parties and going to bars after work. I have been pretty tame in that aspect for the last ten years or so, but still always loved a quiet night of preparing something fancy and a few glasses of red to go along with.
I really don’t mind going without wine, it was more of a habit than anything, still working on the food part tho. Just discovered that potatoes mashed with real coconut milk (in the can, I get Aroy-D) are simply delish! You would never know they weren’t made with milk and butter.
In the long ago past I drank more, my husband loved the lifestyle of parties and going to bars after work. I have been pretty tame in that aspect for the last ten years or so, but still always loved a quiet night of preparing something fancy and a few glasses of red to go along with.
I really don’t mind going without wine, it was more of a habit than anything, still working on the food part tho. Just discovered that potatoes mashed with real coconut milk (in the can, I get Aroy-D) are simply delish! You would never know they weren’t made with milk and butter.
Cynthia, interesting about your Dad. Gluten ataxia would not surprise me.Cynthia wrote:I haven’t done any ancestry testing, but I do know that a lot of my family on both sides had problems with alcohol addiction.
I had an uncle who died in his early 50’s from oesophageal cancer, he smoked and drank a lot. Another uncle died in his 70’s from alcohol induced Alzheimer’s. My Dad quit drinking almost 40 years ago.
The younger generation, some of them have struggled with drug addictions as well, both cases stemming from deep childhood trauma and abuse. I think that follows a lot of times for addiction, rather than genealogy. Not saying it isn’t in your genes. For sure I think that can be a component. So much we don’t know.
My sister who never drank heavily and hasn’t had a drink in over 20 years has three autoimmune diseases and also had to deal with triple negative breast cancer five years ago.
We do wonder about the gene connection there. We believe my Dad, who is in his 80’s may be suffering from gluten ataxia, he lost most motor function of his legs in two years with a “mysterious disease” that no doctor or specialist can figure out. We wonder if might have been a silent celiac sufferer all these years. Right up until he was 80 he rode between 40 and 60 km’s per day and now he can barely make it across a room with a walker!
I returned from a business trip to Napa Valley last week.
Napa Valley is mostly about red wines. I sampled reds
whites and also sparkling wine.
My portion sizes were tiny, in many cases just a couple of sips. I drank more last week than I've drank in the last 5 years.
I did ok mc wise but the last day I had a bit of a dull headache 
Napa Valley is mostly about red wines. I sampled reds
whites and also sparkling wine. My portion sizes were tiny, in many cases just a couple of sips. I drank more last week than I've drank in the last 5 years.
I did ok mc wise
but the last day I had a bit of a dull headache