Stinky (I hesitate to use that name!!),
Sorry you to get this nuisance condition, but it is a lot easier with a bunch of fellow suffers to learn from.
The GI doc sounds pretty typical of what other folk here experience. You can do testing from enterolabs for gluten and other intolerances if you are in the USA. Otherwise you just try it and see.
Gluten never had a clear cut timing for me - and for dairy it was a standard two days before I would notice the effect. If you do the elimination diet you want to take care to avoid trace amounts and secondary products, so look up some lists of allowed and disallowed foods. There's one on this site somewhere, but it is good to read a few as they emphasise different things. Since you eat a low processed food component anyway, you are starting with an advantage.
You will probably find lots of fibre is not really needed at this point. The system moves without help!
Nice to meet you,
Lyn
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The classic blood tests for celiac disease will not detect the type of gluten sensitivity that we have, even though most of us are just as sensitive to gluten as the average celiac. It can only be reliably determined by a stool test, and there is only one lab in the U. S. currently doing those tests, and that lab is Enterolab, in Dallas, TX. Therefore, unless he sent one of your stool samples to that lab, for testing, he is just making an unsubstantiated claim. He is going by an incorrect assumption that was made many years ago, namely, that if a patient does not have celiac disease, then that patient cannot be gluten sensitive. That assumption is totally incorrect, however.Stinky wrote:My doc says my Collagenous Colitis is not a gluten sensitive colitis - is that a standard line?
Like Lyn, I never could associate gluten with the timing of my reactions, either, and I kept a food and reaction diary for almost two years. After I cut all gluten out of my diet, though, after roughly a year, I began to see some improvement, and after I also cut out dairy and several other foods, I was able to achieve remission.
Are you experiencing diarrhea? If so, then it's virtually impossible to tell what you are reacting to, at any given time, because some/most reactions are delayed, and the timing is not easy to predict, because we are all different. Just because you have an episode of diarrhea, doesn't necessarily mean that it was due to your last meal. If you are having normal BMs, then it's relatively easy to tell what you react to.
We have quite a few members who are vegetarians, or vegans. As I mentioned, about half of us are intolerant of soya, the protein in soy beans. If you are one of the unlucky ones who happen to be intolerant of soy, then it can become virtually impossible to get enough protein, on a vegan diet. Also, fiber tends to irritate our gut, until it is able to heal, and too much fiber can prolong the healing process. Hopefully, you won't turn out to be intolerant of soy. While we're healing, many of us are able to tolerate nut butters better than the nuts themselves.
In general, the immune system can only focus on one food intolerance at a time, so you probably won't even be able to tell whether or not you are soy intolerant, until you have eliminated all traces of gluten and dairy from your diet, (I realize that you may already be avoiding diary), and your gut has had a chance to do some healing, then, it may detect soy, if you happen to be intolerant of it.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Thanks so much to you both, Lyn and Tex. Sorry about the offensive name Lyn - I just HAD to! lol Sometimes the thing I feel the worst about is having to share a bathroom with my daughter - she never complains or says "E-UWWWW" like one would expect from a kid - still, I know how bad it smells!! I've been lighting lots of candles and apologizing. And as for being out in public and having to go - definitely not a pleasant thing.
Interesting about the gluten business - scary about the soy - what in the heck does one eat if they can't handle those plus dairy? I don't think I like getting older cry First I ripped my ACL off my femur in martial arts and had reconstructive surgery this past summer and now this! I hope to be able to learn all I can on this and help others - I never even knew something like this existed.
Interesting about the gluten business - scary about the soy - what in the heck does one eat if they can't handle those plus dairy? I don't think I like getting older cry First I ripped my ACL off my femur in martial arts and had reconstructive surgery this past summer and now this! I hope to be able to learn all I can on this and help others - I never even knew something like this existed.