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Re: Suggested Eating Plan - Stage ONE
Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 9:22 pm
by tex
You're already eating 3 more vegetables than I normally eat, but if you want more variety, peeled squash, carrots, green beans, and cauliflower are usually safe for most of us.
Tex
Re: Suggested Eating Plan - Stage ONE
Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 5:31 am
by AmandaB77
Okay thanks Tex...I better take it easy then. Slow and steady :) Thanks for the suggestions! Do you mind if I ask what your one safe veggie is? Do people in this group stick to mostly meat? I’m feeling like there’s not much to eat!
Re: Suggested Eating Plan - Stage ONE
Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 8:39 am
by tex
The only vegetable in my diet is potatoes. Potatoes have been my number one vegetable choice all my life. But because I don't get a lot of the nutrients in green vegetables, I do take vitamins.
Healing the damage to the intestines caused by gluten requires a lot of protein. The human body requires a certain amount of protein and fat in order to survive, and it requires protein and fat in order to thrive (and maintain optimum health). Carbs are not required, nor are fiber. Humans learned to eat fiber whenever they couldn't acquire enough meat as they were developing, during the paleolithic period of history. Fiber kept them from starving. We learned to eat carbs as agriculture was developed during the neolithic period when grains were developed a mere 10 to 20 thousand years ago. American diet variety remained very limited up until about a century ago. Since then, we've been adding variety to our diet regularly, simply because it's available.
Craving variety is a part of living to eat. While treating MC, we do best if we learn to eat to live. Our food is our medicine, and the simpler our diet, the better (for recovery). After we achieve remission, we can gradually add some of the variety back into our diet.
Yes, a few of our members have adopted a diet of nothing but meat (preferably meat that contains some fat) while recovering, and they've done well. Many still eat a low-carb diet, as their chosen, normal diet. It's especially helpful for controlling diabetes and related issues.
Tex
Re: Suggested Eating Plan - Stage ONE
Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:23 am
by AmandaB77
Thanks so much for your thorough answer Tex! I suppose I have some mindset work to do as well, and learning to think of food as medicine. Thanks again :)
Re: Suggested Eating Plan - Stage ONE
Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 7:14 am
by AmandaB77
Good morning! Diet is going well so far, can’t believe I’ve had solid BMs all week!
I am eating only: yellow potato, sweet potato, turkey, pork tenderloin, coconut oil, canned coconut milk, and a bit of Silk unsweetened almond milk. I am able to have a daily half cup of coffee, diluted with coconut milk. My guts are loving this diet, my only concern is that I’m consuming too much saturated fat through the coconut products. Is this a concern? I probably go through almost a whole can of coconut milk per day and a couple tbsp of coconut oil daily in my potatoes.
Thanks!
Amanda
Re: Suggested Eating Plan - Stage ONE
Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 9:35 am
by tex
I'm no dietitian, but in my opinion, as desperately as most of us need fat and/or calories in our restricted diets, in order to prevent further weight loss, if I wasn't having diarrhea because of too much fat, I'd be happy as a lark with that diet. Coconut oil is promoted by many as good for the digestive system and good for healing.
https://www.amymyersmd.com/article/mct-oil-gut-health/
Tex
Re: Suggested Eating Plan - Stage ONE
Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 9:57 am
by AmandaB77
Excellent, thanks for the feedback Tex! I'm feeling really good and satisfied with all the coconut and fat, so I'll keep at it :)
Re: Suggested Eating Plan - Stage ONE
Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 11:15 am
by WendyU
tex wrote: ↑Sat Jan 16, 2021 9:35 am
I'm no dietitian, but in my opinion, as desperately as most of us need fat and/or calories in our restricted diets, in order to prevent further weight loss, if I wasn't having diarrhea because of too much fat, I'd be happy as a lark with that diet. Coconut oil is promoted by many as good for the digestive system and good for healing.
https://www.amymyersmd.com/article/mct-oil-gut-health/
Tex
I don't want to hijack this post but have a question.
I, too, am consuming almost a can of coconut milk daily. Could this be contributing to WD? I read the attached article and it says it is good for healing and constipation.
I'm so confused!
Wendy
Re: Suggested Eating Plan - Stage ONE
Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 4:35 pm
by tex
I don't know how to answer that because I don't remember if I ever used that much. And even if it worked for me, that's no guarantee that it will work for everyone. But that's easy to verify. Don't use it for a day, or two and see if it makes a difference. It shouldn't take more than a day or two to see a significant difference, if it's a primary factor contributing to your diarrhea.
Tex
Lamb not working for me.
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 6:11 am
by nigelc
Hi, I just wanted for everyone to know incase it helps them too.
So I experienced a what seemed to be really speedy recovery, and it was for a while.
I had been eating mainly bacon and pork chops with very occasional lamb, as it is so expensive!
Everything was settling down nicely.
In the search for cheaper lamb I managed to get access to a Costco card and was able to get a load of lamb and pork and fill the freezer. So I noticed the WD coming and going again and I was really disappointed but then I figured out that it was the lamb!!
I tested this theory several times and confirmed 100% that if I stick to pork for a week everything was good and when I switched to lamb it all went downhill rapidly, within 2 or 3 days of 2 lamb chops for dinner every night I was back to square 1.
So it seems I am to be a lamb avoider from this point forward!!
My enterolab did say pork was my "no reaction" meat and as far as I know they don't test for lamb but I had read that the lamb is "usually" safe.
So for other folks out there if you are not getting the results you desire and have a little lamb on the go I would recommend cutting it out for a while and your body will tell you if you made the right choice.
Re: Suggested Eating Plan - Stage ONE
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 3:42 pm
by tex
Thanks for sharing that information. Sensitivity to lamb is rare, but certainly not impossible. Glad you were able to track down the problem.
Tex
Re: Suggested Eating Plan - Stage ONE
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:27 pm
by Linda J Heaslet
Could it be that the lamb meat purchased was NOT totally fed on regular grass pastureland, but what the owners were using a mix to feed the flock? Maybe included wheat or what bi-products?
Re: Suggested Eating Plan - Stage ONE
Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 9:19 am
by tex
Hi Linda,
You've raised a very good point. Most doctors would probably ridicule this idea, but I suspect that it's a very real problem for some of us. It apparently doesn't affect all of us because these days, most lambs in the U. S. are fattened in a feedlot before being slaughtered, just like cattle. Even range-fed animals are not immune to this because when the weather gets bad, ranchers provide supplemental feed for their animals, to keep them healthy.
And I'm not the only one who agrees with you. Here's a link to an article written ten years ago by John D. Symes, aka Dogtor J, a British D. V. M.
“Secondary Glutenization” – It’s very real!
Doctor Symes was one of the pioneers in the discovery and sharing of information about food sensitivities in pets.
Tex
Re: Suggested Eating Plan - Stage ONE
Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 4:56 pm
by Linda J Heaslet
Hey, Tex - I have IBS-D and MC-L...I used EnterLab about a yr after my diagnosis. I know I have still have some “triggers” that maybe weren’t involved 2 yrs ago when the lab was done, but I am moving toward a low FODMAPs diet since it seems that a number of the high FODMAPs foods are players, in my case. I’m wondering how to distinguish issues from the high FODMAPs foods vs too much fiber in those same foods, which then sets off my MC? Maybe it doesn’t matter...either way it will be a food my system can’t handle, right? Would you say that most of the people here utilize a low FOWMAPs diet, though maybe altered to help w/ the MC or any other IBD they have as well?
Re: Suggested Eating Plan - Stage ONE
Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 8:09 pm
by tex
Most of us have to avoid fermented foods and sugar alcohols. Significant amounts of sugar alcohols will often trigger an MC reaction (speaking from personal experience) and fermented foods have a high histamine content which will use up our diamine oxidase (DAO) enzyme supply, and since MC depletes DAO, we will eventually develop histamine issues.
Tex