How many of you do paleo

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Do you follow a paleo diet?

Yes, I almost always follow a strict paleo diet.
11
20%
Yes, but not 100 %.
13
24%
Mostly, but I eat a few non-paleo foods.
12
22%
No, I don't follow a paleo diet.
18
33%
 
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Hello Pat,
I saw on your earlier Post that you use pepper. I can't tolerate any spices. Do you eat your banana ripe or a bit green? Do you use sugar in coffee? I had to cut out fruit,nuts,artificial sweetener,coffee & tea last Oct. when I got sick. So far The only cooked veg I am eating without creating gas&bloating are carrots,sweet potato& green beans. If you are going to try bison I seem to remember Tex reporting that it is very similar genetically to beef! I tolerate lamb better than beef. I have been boiling chicken bones, making soup and find it soothing. I can eat meats&fish. I have not tried seafood. Because I have diabetes I don't fry anything. I BBQ,broil,steam or bake!
Apr1st I went GF,DF,SF. Saw some improvement in first week then went egg&oat free and within 2days the D stopped. Yippee! Enjoying Normans 3weeks now!
Be patient, go slowly. Take your time introducing new foods. Some foods are just too abrasive for our GI tract to manage while inflamed . I plan on ordering the Enterolab lab tests and hope that it will shed some light on my intolerances and may in the coming months allow the introduction of a few items back into my diet once my gut heals. Best wishes
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Heady, Thanks for the response. I also plan on looking into the Enterolab testing. I'm hoping that my insurance can help out if my primary doc orders it. I'm so fortunate to have an MD here in Portland who is knowledgable of diet to treat IBD. She often suggests SCD for her patients. I think she'll do her best to have insurance cover the testing. What a long road this is of sorting out the food intolerances! I've been improving during this month of discovering this website and working with the elimination diet. I'm very impressed with your willingness to cut out so much. I too have taken out dairy, eggs, soy. I've been gluten free for years. I am willing to take out the pepper to see if it helps. Something has caused a flare the past few days. I had been doing quite well on the elimination track but I get too adventurous! I wanted something different and tried some scallops. Not good! It's taking several days now for my body to sort that one out. Patience and trial and error. I just can't get away with much of anything! Best, Pat N :wink:
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Good morning, Pat. You're doing a good job of eliminating categories of food that can cause problems. While you are healing and still dealing with a lot of inflammation, it is best to stick with a limited and safe diet. When I first got sick I tried to adjust favorite recipes to GF, SF, DF, EF. The results were usually pretty awful and not worth the effort and wasted food. Simplicity it best, especially when you have just begun to heal.

Keep up the good work,
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PatN.. I saw both my PCP & GI in the last week and lab testing from US is not a covered expense on our insurance here so I will be paying for it myself. I may also skip Enterolab & wait till after the summer and introduce one item per week and chart reactions. I haven't decided yet. So far I have found that I usually take 12 hrs to see a change in BM from something I've eaten. I accidentally got soy in the spray Pam that I used on my broiler pan. No reaction! I may test out a little soy later in the month if I am still enjoying Normans . Hang in there. Keep in touch.
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Good morning, Heady. My insurance didn't pay for Enterolab either but at that point I was so sick, I was desperate for answers. Be aware that reactions to a food intolerance aren't limited to gastrointestinal issues. I tested positive for gluten, soy, dairy, eggs and two celiac genes. I was prescribed Entocort which stopped the WD the first day. Because I had lost so much weight and because I love ice cream, I was eating soy based ice cream. This was a very bad idea! I got the first migraine headache of my life. After a few episodes, I stopped eating soy and haven't had a headache since. Other reactions to food intolerances can be fatigue, muscle aches, skin rash, brain fog, gas, headache etc. Hopefully, you will be able to get well by simply avoiding gluten.

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Has anyone tried The Wahl's Protocol by Dr. Terry Wahl's ? She reversed many of her MS symptoms with her diet which is basically paleo and eating for your mitochondria since the inflammation in our cells is where all auto-immune begins. And ALL auto immune looks the same if you trace it back to your cells not functioning properly. I'm getting ready to implement it myself. After being GF for just two months after diagnosis I have gotten rid of D! My skipped heartbeats have stopped ( had those for a year and a half) and my hair isn't falling out as rapidly. Thank god for this site! I would not be feeling as well today if it were not for you Tex..... and everyone who contributes. Time to take the diet to the next level and get back some vitality. Please respond if you have heard of this protocol and had a good experience.


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I have been following the Wahls protocol for about a month now but this is only after having followed a strict gf/df/sf/ef diet (+ no chicken or beef or anything else that Enterolab indicated was problematic) for 2 years. The trouble with Wahl's protocol for people with MC is its high fiber content. Until really recently I never would have been able to deal with that amount of fiber. For a while I was eating 0 fiber. My body simply couldn't handle it at all early on. I like her book a lot and I think she makes a lot of sense along with the extraordinary results she has had. I would just say be careful about the amount of fiber you consume. I am following her paleo plus plan but my diet was pretty close to that already.

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JFR wrote:
ldubois7 wrote:Shiela,

Jean was very happy with an all natural jerky she ordered a few months back. I can't recall the name, but you could message her.
I have gotten the plain turkey jerky at Wellness Meats. They also make beef jerky. I like the turkey jerky but it is a little pricy.

http://www.grasslandbeef.com/Categories.bok

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Jean...I've been looking for turkey jerky recipes on the forum and found your post. Would love to try the linked strips but you're right...at $1 per strip they are very expensive! So I am gonna try and make my own in my dehydrator. I've learned it's fairly easy but vital to do correctly in order to prevent pathogen growth. This article was very helpful and includes a MC friendly recipe. Haven't tried it yet...waiting for my jerky gun.

http://www.backcountrypaleo.com/gobble- ... key-jerky/

Buying a dehydrator and jerky gun is an initial investment but once we make 100 or so sticks we've recovered our investment. At 10 sticks per typical dehydrator tray that's quickly done.

My dehydrator. https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01 ... UTF8&psc=1

My jerky gun. https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00 ... UTF8&psc=1
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Joanne,

Thanks Joanne. I haven't tried making turkey jerky but I have made jerky with ground venison. The recipe is here:

http://wellnessmama.com/2201/ground-beef-jerky/

I only use ground venison and salt. I guess I like things simple. I also use a dehydrator but don't own a jerky gun. I haven't bought any of that turkey jerky in a long time. Matter of fact I haven't made any jerky in a long time. Maybe I'll get back into it. Hope yours turns out well. Let me know.

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JFR wrote:Joanne,

Thanks Joanne. I haven't tried making turkey jerky but I have made jerky with ground venison. The recipe is here:

http://wellnessmama.com/2201/ground-beef-jerky/

I only use ground venison and salt. I guess I like things simple. I also use a dehydrator but don't own a jerky gun. I haven't bought any of that turkey jerky in a long time. Matter of fact I haven't made any jerky in a long time. Maybe I'll get back into it. Hope yours turns out well. Let me know.

Jean
You're most welcome. That looks like a great recipe, Jean. If/when I can eat more beefy type meats I'll try that for sure.

I ordered the jerky gun cause I have arthritic hands and it seemed to require much less handwork/dexterity. We shall see. :smile:
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Joanne,

FWIW, I had arthritic hands, and knees that were so inflamed that I had to use a cane to get around on many days. That was about 15 years ago. After my gut healed I was able to retire the cane, and while my hands might still look arthritic (as you know the physical distortions are permanent), the inflammation and pain disappeared and my hands and fingers work properly again. IOW the arthritis is no longer active.

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It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
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tex wrote:Joanne,

FWIW, I had arthritic hands, and knees that were so inflamed that I had to use a cane to get around on many days. That was about 15 years ago. After my gut healed I was able to retire the cane, and while my hands might still look arthritic (as you know the physical distortions are permanent), the inflammation and pain disappeared and my hands and fingers work properly again. IOW the arthritis is no longer active.

Tex
I have had the same experience with my hands. My knuckles are still distorted but the pain is almost completely gone. The last remnants of pain went away after I added glucosamine and chondroitin along with curcumin, but I only added those within the past year. Even without them my arthritis was much better when my gut healed so that I was only occasionally aware of pain in my finger joints. Now with the added supplements it's virtually gone.

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tex wrote:Joanne,

FWIW, I had arthritic hands, and knees that were so inflamed that I had to use a cane to get around on many days. That was about 15 years ago. After my gut healed I was able to retire the cane, and while my hands might still look arthritic (as you know the physical distortions are permanent), the inflammation and pain disappeared and my hands and fingers work properly again. IOW the arthritis is no longer active.

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JFR wrote:
tex wrote:Joanne,

FWIW, I had arthritic hands, and knees that were so inflamed that I had to use a cane to get around on many days. That was about 15 years ago. After my gut healed I was able to retire the cane, and while my hands might still look arthritic (as you know the physical distortions are permanent), the inflammation and pain disappeared and my hands and fingers work properly again. IOW the arthritis is no longer active.

Tex
I have had the same experience with my hands. My knuckles are still distorted but the pain is almost completely gone. The last remnants of pain went away after I added glucosamine and chondroitin along with curcumin, but I only added those within the past year. Even without them my arthritis was much better when my gut healed so that I was only occasionally aware of pain in my finger joints. Now with the added supplements it's virtually gone.

Jean
That's fabulous, Jean! And my hope.
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Yes, I take glucosamine and chondroitin also. And flax seed oil, for good measure.

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It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
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