horrible day!

willabec · Post by **willabec** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 12:25 pm

i have been doing fairly well the past couple of weeks. now on lialda. today has been the worst day in a very long time!! have already gone 5x and the last time was just water (sorry). what the .....???? i did start some supplements from a naturopath.....a good probiotic, so i would doubt that would be it and then a product called gi revive.....when i called her this a.m. to tell her i was having a not so good day, she suggested that i stop the probiotic for a few days and just take the gi revive to see if that helps in any way. if it does not, stop the gi revive and then just try the probiotic. any thoughts???

Zizzle · Post by **Zizzle** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 12:37 pm

Well, many if not most probiotics have dairy in them, so unless they specifically say they are dairy free, the probiotic could be a problem. However, I looked up GI revive, and it's got a host of ingredients that could cause trouble (I've bolded a few, but others here may know more). I suppose maybe it "revives" GI tracts that are too slow!

Although I have heard good things about licorice, slippery elm and aloe vera, but I haven't tried them yet.

Powder:
Serving Size: 1 teaspoon (7.5 grams)
Servings per container: 30
L-Glutamine.......1500 mg
N-Acetyl Glucosamine.......1000 mg
Citrus Pectin.......1000 mg
Deglycyrrhizinated Licorice (DGL (Glycyrrhiza glabra).......400 mg
Aloe Vera (Leaf Extract 200:1).......300 mg
Slippery Elm (bark) (Ulmus pulmila).......200 mg
Mucin.......200 mg
Marshmallow (root) (Althea officinalis).......100 mg
Chamomile (Matricaria chamomilla).......100 mg
Okra (pod (Hibiscus esculentus).......100 mg
Cat's Claw (TOA free (bark) (Uncaria tomentosa).......100 mg
Methylsulfonylmethane (MSM).......100 mg
Quercetin.......100 mg
Prunus (Concentrate).......100 mg
PepZin GI (Zinc-Carnosine).......75 mg
Other Ingredients:Natural peach powder, decafe black tea, xylitol, silicon dioxide, xanthan gum, citric acid, soy lecithin, stevia (leaf) extract, beta carotine (color).

Mags · Post by **Mags** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 12:59 pm

Willabec-

I for one cannot tolerate any stone fruit, and what you are taking has both peaches and plums. I have become extremely wary in general of adding anything to my system that I am not positive already that I can tolerate. I have yet to find a probiotic that does not make me sick.

In my opinion only, I would immediately stop both supplements and just see what happens. If you get better, great. If you don't, you are certainly no worse off than before.

Love,

Maggie

willabec · Post by **willabec** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 1:31 pm

if it was due to the probiotic or the gi revive, would it effect me 4-5 days later and not immediately? i have the same notion to stop the supplements, however, i only have enough lialda for tomorrow and it is very costly....should i refill my prescription or maybe 1/2 the prescription and see if my issues resolve without taking the supplements?? the probiotic does not contain dairy....it is called proboulardi.

Kari · Post by **Kari** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 1:33 pm

Hi Willabec,

Sorry you're having a bad day

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As for probiotics, I have tried different ones on people's recommendations over the past couple of years, but never with any measure of success. Only a week ago, my dietitian, as well as accupuncturist, convinced me to try S. Boulardii. I very reluctantly agreed, but quickly regretted it when it gave me the big D. I would say that's the last time I try probiotics for now - come to think of it, probably for ever:).

Anyway, I wish you a speedy recovery. We seem to each be our own best experts, and by listening to our bodies, can generally figure out what to stay clear of.

Love,
Kari

sarkin · Post by **sarkin** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 1:35 pm

I agree with the "stop everything just in case" theory. Chamomile upsets my stomach, though it's used to soothe GI distress. With so much going on, you need a break, much more than you need a 'revive' product that might actually be taking you in the wrong direction. Once you get back on an even keel, you could test it again and see if you react. Or you could try some of those supplements individually, to make sure they are safe for you.

In my opinion, there is nothing more important than stopping the watery D. You are losing fluids and getting all kinds of other systems out of balance while that's going on - when this happens to me, I consider that my whole insides are screaming 'emergency, emergency!' and I only take in what I know for sure I can tolerate. (One day I had nothing but my own homemade chicken broth - at the time my list of 'sure' foods was very short!)

I hope you feel better quickly, and wish you speedy healing,

Sara

sarkin · Post by **sarkin** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 1:40 pm

S. boulardii definitely doesn't agree with me (it did help my mother).

As for how soon it would affect you... it depends on so many factors, unfortunately I believe there is no absolutely certain answer. For the same reason, the GI supplement might be wonderful for someone with a different condition, or even a different person with the same condition. (You'll notice that some here prefer Lomotil to Imodium for their 'emergency toolkit' - and others have the exact opposite experience... and I have benefitted from Pepto Bismol, where it's made others miserably sick...)

I truly hope you get some relief, and soon,

Sara

Gabes-Apg · Post by **Gabes-Apg** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 2:07 pm

I avoid supplements that have more than 5 ingredients, if you do react there is no way of figuring out what the trigger is to avoid it in the future.

also with supplements, I dont try two new ones at the same time, try one for a few weeks and if you are ok then start the next one

i agree with what is already pointed out, there are a few risky ingredients in the GI revive supplement, and check out the basis of the gel cap for the pro-biotic. Alot of gel caps/vege caps, can either have Gluten and/or Soy in them.

Post by **tex** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 3:06 pm

Willabec,

Gabes is right, (and so is everyone else who responded). That product contains waaaaaaaaay too many ingredients to not cause problems for someone with chemical or food sensitivities. If you want to get rid of the D, stop taking both products. If you want to try something new, only introduce one item at a time, in the future, so that you can pinpoint the problem, if something goes wrong.

Doctors love to prescribe stuff, but that doesn't mean that those things will help us, or even that we can tolerate them. You don't need any sort of "digestive aids" to heal - you just need to stop ingesting chemicals or food that inflames your intestines. Your body will heal on it's own, if your diet doesn't contain anything that is inflammatory or irritating. It's impossible to predict how long it will take your intestines to settle down again. If you become impatient to stop the D, you may have to resume taking Lialda, to help suppress the inflammation sooner.

Tex

willabec · Post by **willabec** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 6:07 pm

i think i am going to do exactly that...stop the new stuff completely. i did call the pharmacy and only got 1/2 the prescription of lialda filled so that i have enough to take until i need to call the gi dr. again for an update. we shall see how that works. and then if i want to try the supplements again, possibly the probiotic, i will just take one at a time for a little bit and then go from there. thanks for the advice!

klhale · Post by **klhale** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 6:29 pm

Remember to introduce new things into your diet, one at a time...otherwise it makes it very difficult to pinpoint what has made you ill. At this point, like Tex said, stop those new pills right now.

Post by **tex** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:07 pm

Good luck. I hope the D goes away within a day or so after you discontinue taking those two supplements. It might not, but sometimes we get lucky, and it never hurts to wish for fast results.

Tex