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My daughter sent me an e-mail calling my attention to this web site regarding protein in coffee and gluten intolerance.
I switched to decaf about a year ago and in January I quit drinking coffee. I do have a cup occasionally when I am out.

I am interested in reading what others here say after reading the article.
In a nutshell, fairly recent lab research has revealed that 10% of coffee is a protein that cross reacts with gluten antibodies.


http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/ ... nk-coffee/



Something else there that I found interesting is this
According to Dr. David Clark DC, a functional neurologist and endocrinologist:
There’s not a disease or health condition you can think of that does not have an association – in the research literature – with gluten sensitivity.


That’s a very strong statement!
You will be seeing more of me here as I am having problems AAAGGGAAAIIINNNNNN.
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Coffee was on my celiac cross-reactivity test from Cyrex Labs. I tested borderline, but my recent feelings of severe fatigue all started when I started drinking coffee in a daily basis. I never used to drink coffee because it caused all sorts of tummy trouble. My MC symptom remission had me thinking I could drink coffee safely. I stopped coffee cold turkey and feel much better now. Of course, I had accidental soy protein during part of that miserable time, but I truly feel coffee played a role too. Back to tea!
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Hi Charlotte,

While I do agree with the comment about the association between gluten and disease, that comment has absolutely nothing to do with coffee.

The misinformation about coffee apparently comes from this website:

http://drclark.typepad.com/dr_david_cla ... -news.html

I wouldn't stoop to calling him a "quack", but I can't help but wonder if he sleeps in a bed at night, or goes to roost, instead. :lol:

On his website, he says:
Ten percent of coffee is a protein that cross-reacts with gluten antibodies.
That's news to me, news to USDA scientists, and news to anyone else who knows anything about the protein content of coffee. The fact of the matter is, the protein content of a cup of coffee is slightly over one-tenth of one percent, (about 0.12%, to be more specific). He claims that it's 100 times that much. Really? I'm guessing that he flunked math in high school, so he probably figured that "functional neurologists" didn't need to know math, so that's why he picked that particular career. :lol: What is a "functional neurologist", anyway?

You'll notice that the letters following his name that are supposed to represent a title, are "DC", not "MD", or "PhD". So what does "DC" stand for - most likely, "doctor of chiropractic". :roll:

Here is how he describes the "cross-reactivity" process:
Coffee cross-reacts with gluten antibodies.

Let me tell you what that means...

When you have a gluten problem you make antibodies to it. Antibodies are like little strobe lights that your immune system makes for a specific invader.

So you put out these strobe lights for gluten, right? And they attach to a gluten molecule and they sit there and they flash so that your T cells --your SWAT team-- can come in and kill the gluten.

Gluten antibodies - those little strobe lights - can attach to other foods that are not gluten.

Your immune system thinks those non-gluten things ARE gluten ---and you can still have a gluten response.
Outside of sounding rather unscientific for such a sophisticated "functional neurologist", the description sounds worrisome - except for the fact that those "little strobe lights" :roll: do not attach to other foods that are not gluten. The fact of the matter is that antibodies are extremely specific, and anti-gliadin antibodies only attach to gliadin peptides in gluten. Period.

Is an honest-to-goodness peer-reviewed scientific research article, published in a prestigious medical journal, cited anywhere? If it is, I couldn't find it. So all of this makes me very, very suspicious about his claims about coffee, his qualifications in general, and his motives in particular. :monkey: :headscratch: Unfortunately, if what he says is true about cyrex labs, that makes me highly suspicious of their claims about their testing, also. :sigh:

Look at it this way. Most of us here drink coffee, (including me). If coffee is so loaded with "cross-reactivity" to gluten, why aren't all of us sick, all the time?

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I am with tex

coffee is the only food item that i have tolerated well before MC Dx and after MC Dx.
it is probably the only item i consume other than water that does not cause me any histamine issues

IMO - if people are reacting to coffee, it is not due to the fact they are intolerant to gluten, there will be another reason.

sorry to hear you are struggling again... you may wish to read a post that i wrote about immune system and inflammation, i was prompted by why so many of us have niggling issues such as histamine and/or mast cell and/or joint issues, or skin issues even though the MC 'seems' under control

hope you feel better soon
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Post by wonderwoman »

Thanks Tex for your long reply. You are a genius. I sent your reply to my daughter as she gave up coffee because of this article.
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Coffee is one of the handful of foods I can have. For me, one of the give-aways, that this report wasn't to be trusted, was the lack of supporting evidence, no studies of any kind mentioned, kind of like saying we've been wrong all along, the earth really is flat. I'll keep drinking coffee every morning.There is a pot brewing now.

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I went coffee-less after my CC diagnosis last year, when I decided to try to avoid caffeine as much as possible. But because I've been testing a low-histamine diet, tea has also become suspect, so I went back to one cup of coffee when I wake up (not two, I get too jittery). Now I'm confused! Is tea really horrible for those of us with mast-cell issues? Which is the lesser of two evils for us MC-ers, coffee or tea?
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patc73 wrote:I went coffee-less after my CC diagnosis last year, when I decided to try to avoid caffeine as much as possible. But because I've been testing a low-histamine diet, tea has also become suspect, so I went back to one cup of coffee when I wake up (not two, I get too jittery). Now I'm confused! Is tea really horrible for those of us with mast-cell issues? Which is the lesser of two evils for us MC-ers, coffee or tea?
I had been drinking coffee in the morning and green tea in the evening. I gave up the green tea because my troubles seemed to be influenced by mast cell issues and I had read that green tea should be avoided, but the low histamine dietary advice is confusing. Some things seem to be on all the lists and others are less clear. I have read both that green tea should be avoided if you are on a low histamine diet and that green tea inhibits the release of histamine. Who knows? It's confusing but coffee doesn't bother me so I plan to keep on drinking it and probably experiment with green tea later on to see how it effects me.

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Jean, I think that's what I'll do, too...everything in moderation, like my Dad always said! One cup of coffee in the morning, and maybe a cup of green or chamomile tea in the afternoon.

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I started drinking coffee recently and felt worse the longer I drank it, so I stopped. I've been drinking organic green tea in the mornings now and feeling good so far.
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Post by Nancy »

I love coffee. It is one of those things I have when I go somewhere and people are eating stuff I can't have. At least I can drink coffee. Glad to hear Tex's remarks on this.
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I do drink and enjoy a cup of coffee every morning. If I drink more I get jittery also.

A couple of people I know have said that coffee is a diuretic. Is this true?

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Ewwwww! After seeing Tex's "quote of the day" not sure I even want my coffee! :???: :???:
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