My story so far

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My story so far

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Hi everyone,

I’d like to share my story with you. I’m new to the board and have already introduced myself. By telling my story chronically and in detail I’m hoping that some of you can relate or even provide with some answers where possible. Maybe for some of you it will be a feast of recognition although the word ‘feast’ seems slightly inappropriate. Poor a cup, get a snack and make yourself comfortable, you might be here a while… or: just scroll all the way down and find a summary of it all

August 2010 I’m suffering from a terrible toothache. While on holiday I phone my dentist and he tells me to get some antibiotics and Ibuprofen painkillers. So I did and it helped. February that year the toothache returns in worse form simultaneously accompanied by a severe throat infection. Again; antibiotics and maximum dosage of NSAID’s (Non Steroid Anti Inflammatory Drugs) for the pain. In surgery at the dentist the tooth got sorted, it was a nasty complex inflammation of the root canal. Had to stay on the maximum dosage of NSAID’s for a couple of days just to make it through the day. (is this relavant? Ow yes!!)

At this point I notice my stool being different; sticky, fatty, smelly and of different consistence. From then on I start having periods of diarrhoea (D), usually a couple of days in a row. Didn’t think much of it, ‘probably viral’
I also notice that my sight diminishes especially at night. My eyes itch frequently and look a bit red/bloodshed. The skin on my forehead feels dry and crackly.

July 2011 the periods of D follow at smaller interval and seem to last longer. Still, we all deserve a holiday so off I went to Italy. Sun, decent coffee, fresh fish, fine food and mega loads of lovely pasta! If only… from day 5 on the D becomes permanent and with a frequency of some 3 to 5 times day/nightly. Also I notice a slight brain fog, slight lack of coordination, severe night sweats and have to urinate very frequently. We (or rather my lovely wife) decide to shorten our holiday to visit the family doctor back home. She issues a blood test for several things and a stool test for bacteria. (I love the English term stool test. In Holland we use a more specific, more graphic name…) All the tests came back negative so she sends me to have a colonoscopy at the hospital. There they said all looks very well on first sight but I had to wait for the biopsies that may give some answers. (hence the term microscopic in colitis)
That September I have my first appointment with the GI to go over the biopsy results. And there it is; “you have Collagenous Colitis, it’s an IBD, possibly auto-immune. And within the whole spectrum of IBD it’s the one I would pick should I be forced to” ...eumm..Pardon?! A GI with a sense of humour, well that’s at least something positive. He prescribes me 9mg entocort daily. He also tells me that the CC is very likely caused by the prolonged high intake of NSAID’s and that although the pharmaceutical industry might not agree he’s pretty convinced about it. I tell him about my other issues and he takes this very serious and orders some blood tests.

On my next appointment we go over the blood tests and it turns out I have low vitamin D and some 58 antibodies typical of celiac decease (anti-TtG) An endoscopy will need to confirm the celiac but he is already certain of the outcome. (namely a confirmation). He also issues a DEXA scan to measure my bone density as vitamin D levels are low. At this point I come to appreciate this man very much! He obviously does a proper job along with the sense of humour. He takes time, listens and takes my story serious. And I know some of you will now rip out your hair from envy reading that good and nice doctors do exits and live in Holland but wait, my fair share of the ignoramus ones is still to come. Just read on…
I tell him that my previous complaints are worsening and are being added by; numbness and tingling sensation in hands and legs, pain in back, arms and shoulders and a mild sporadic skin rash. He orders yet another set of blood tests along with the DEXA scan and endoscopy.

While waiting on this, our medical system is probably the same as yours so patience is a necessary virtue, I decide to see my house doctor again. My gait is getting strange, I have a tremor and spontaneous involuntary muscle movements and I have balance issues. She does some neurological tests and decides to sent me to a neurologist. Who in addition runs the same tests again is not at all impressed by the vitamin D count and decides I have chronic hyperventilation syndrome. So I tell him that I tend to disagree and that there are some auto-immune things going on that may call for a somewhat more ‘dig a little deeper’ approche. He does a “hyperventilation provocation test” which basically comes down to me taking a couple of deep breaths while he is on the phone having an important conversation with a nurse… The ‘test’ does not reveal anything and I manage to convince him to do an mri of the head and spine and a blood test for Lyme. Just in case.

Again while waiting on that one, I go and see the GI about the results of all the other tests. The DEXA showed diminished bone density (osteopenia) The blood tests showed no severe abnormalities except that the anti-TtG count was now 28 instead of 58 and the endoscopy showed no signs of celiac nor did the biopsy’s. it did however show a severe candida infection in the oesophagus. (don’t know the common English word for this. It’s the swallow tube from mouth to stomach)
So the GI and I gazed upon each other mute for a while. Then he broke the silence by saying: “interesting case”
His theory was that the Entocort medication had somehow cured the celiac symptoms, not cured the decease obviously but just the damage to the gut. He asked me about the neurologist and I told him what happened. He was genuinely upset about this because he (the GI) had tested for chronic hyperventilation syndrome (CHS) in the blood already because my symptoms did point that way. The test was negative he said so CHS is out of the question! “as for that neurologist; he should watch his monitor, it’s all there; bloodwork, pathology, all of it!” said my GI.
Later that week the neurologist found no abnormalities in the mri, part from a little rupture in the disk between L5 and S1. Not to be called hernia he added! And no cause for my complaints. I persuaded him to do an EMG to look at my tingling and pain issues. He did a specific carpal tunnel EMG and found a Carpal tunnel syndrome in both hands. Again I disagreed because my whole arm, little finger and ribs were also involved and that’s not typical for carpal tunnel.

So: not to make a very long story even longer (I think the American expression is ‘cut to the chase’) I’ll try to sum it up and end with where I’m standing now.

September 2012. Got myself a second opinion from another neurologist who did a scan of the entire spine and head. That revealed 3 herniated disks in the thoracic area as well as the one in the lower back, possibly with spinal core compression in the thoracic one’s. A neurosurgeon looked at the mri images but saw no compression of spinal core and just minor compression of the nerve in the lower back. And he found no cause in this for my complaints about tingling sensations and pains other than in my left leg. Then I mentioned that my left leg often falls out while walking. Specifically my left knee which bends like it wants to kneel down and leaves me struggling to keep my balance. He said that to him it sounded like a brain issue. As if the nerves piloting my left leg are not doing what they are supposed to do.
Then, between yet another period of waiting for test results, I notice that my speech is altering (as did my wife) I tend to take pauses between words and sometimes stammer and search for words which I know I aught to have present but just cant find at that moment. Being a teacher these things sort of stick out if you know what I mean.

October 2012, Back at the GI to talk about my reactions to the tapering of my daily Entocort dosage and some more lab results. Vitamin D is back to normal due to monthly intake of calcium/D3 supplements. But anti Ttg have risen to 128. So a definite case of celiac the GI recons. He starts me on a GF diet. The tapering of entocort to 1 pill every other day did not work well. D came back at unpredictable intervals. He said it’s probably the celiac and not the CC but advices me to stay on a 1 pill maintenance dose for a while.
Meanwhile the neurological stuff keeps worrying me and gets progressively worse. Then I accidentally find an article about “gluten induced ataxia and neuropathy” and my mouth falls open from astonishment!! “why has no one ever thought about this?!” In this article they also mention a test that proofs that Entocort does not cure damage to the gut in CD!!
OK; MC is very rare in Holland, rarer than in the US! Its typically found in woman over 50 so my case is even rarer. There is a link between CC and CD. CD with no intestinal proof is rare to non existent. CD that goes for the brain instead of the intestines is probably the rarest of them all. So yeah, I get it, I’m a bit of a rare case!! But doctors should be happy with that shouldn’t they? It breaks the everyday routine of solid hard cases of well-known and statically proven standard diseases I’d reckon!

I’ve send a copy of the article to both GI and Neuro and I’m seeing them both this month to hear what they have to say about it.

If you are still there, thanks for reading my story! And sorry that it has become such a ridiculously long text… I’ll try to be brief in future messages.


Summery
  • diagnosed with CC September 2011 and put on Entocort 9mg daily for 3 months – 6mg for 3 months – 3mg for 3 months – tapering to 3mg every other day for a month (didn’t work) – back on 3mg daily for 4 months – tapering for 1 month – free of Entocort as of dec 1st 2012
  • low vitamin D3 (value 41)
  • osteopenia (a pre stage of osteoporosis)
  • herniated disks; TH4 – TH5 – TH6 and between L5 and S1. No spinal or nerve compression of significance
  • repeating candida infections in throat
  • anti bodies for celiac disease (anti TtG) ranging from value’s 24 to 128 (should be lower than 8)
  • no villous atrophy in de small intestines
  • possible Celiac yet unconfirmed by biopsy
  • IGg subclass 2 deficient
  • bad response to (mainly thick skinned) nightshade veggies like aubergine and certain peppers
  • no other intolerances known
symptoms
  • the obvious MC related bowel problems
  • fatigue
  • joint aches and stiffness
  • nerve pain/ loss of sense/needles and pins in feet, legs, ribs, arms, hands, fingers, lips, tongue, face
  • brain fog
  • diminished sight/blurry vision
  • dry skin
  • periods of frequent urinating
  • episodes of wobbly and insecure gait (drunkmans gait)
  • balance problems
  • involuntary muscle movements
  • trembling
  • over sensitive to sudden loud noises
  • episodes of slurry speech
  • speaking with ‘double tongue’ when tired
  • periodic night sweats (mainly during intake of entocort)
  • raised lymph nodes in the throat/chin for over a year now
otherwise perfectly healthy :wink:
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Hans,

Well, when I read your story, I found myself shaking my head in agreement all along the way. Many of your experiences seem to be typical for many of us.

Regarding the neurological issues — they seem to be rather common for gluten-sensitive individuals, and yet the medical community considers them to be rare. Many/most physicians are not even aware of the association between gluten-sensitivity and neurological issues. At one point, several years ago, I was even diagnosed with Parkinson's disease by a neurologist, because of my peripheral neuropathy, and other neurological issues. When I tried to explain to him that the symptoms were due to many years of untreated gluten sensitivity, he looked at me as though I had two heads. I've seen two other neurologists since then, and they agreed with me that I do not have Parkinson's disease, but they could not understand or explain my symptoms either, because they do not recognize the possibility that gluten might cause neurological issues. :roll: I have resolved most of my neurological issues by taking a prescription vitamin mix called Metanx (a combination of the active forms of vitamins B-12, B-9, and B-6), and I continue to take it (I've been taking it for 3 years now).

The reason why MC is rarely diagnosed in The Netherlands is almost surely the same reason why it was not being diagnosed in this country for decades — they can't find it unless they look for it, and they only look for it in older female patients. That makes their claim that it only exists in "women over 50" a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Low vitamin D levels are a precursor to IBD development, and conversely, IBDs deplete the body's vitamin D levels, to cause vitamin D deficiency, thus predisposing us to the development of additional autoimmune diseases. Be sure to boost your vitamin D level in order to reduce the risk of developing additional autoimmune diseases.

Incidentally, celiac disease/gluten sensitivity causes thinning of tooth enamel, resulting in tooth decay — another marker of celiac disease that most doctors overlook. It was one of my earliest symptoms. Do you have a celiac gene? Your osteopenia at such a young age suggest very strongly that you are probably a celiac, despite your doctor's failure to diagnose it. The cheapest place to get a reliable gene test is EnteroLab, in Dallas, TX. They charge less than half what their competition charges, and the results they supply include the listing of other genes that predispose to gluten sensitivity. Prometheus Labs, for example, only notes celiac genes in their lab report.

Thanks for the insight into your medical history.

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Thanks for the reply Tex

Just wondering; did you have tremors and involuntary muscle movement when wrongfully diagnosed with Parkinson?
I read you have peripheral neuropathy too, have you ever had your vitamin E levels tested? Because that is something i will be aiming for on my next appointment. Apparently low vit E can be a cause of all the mentioned neuro problems and as D and E are both fat soluble vitamins that are absorbed in the last part of the small intestine (bordering the colon) there might be a link there.

Well, as you see i'm still looking for answers.
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Hi Hans from Holland!

Thanks so much for sharing your story. I'm so glad you found our forum. I have learned so much here....not from my GI doctor. You have had quite a journey in the last couple of years. I think you will find much improvement after being off Gluten 100%. I just read a story recently.....can't remember where.....where a man was having stroke-like symptoms and after years of testing, found out he had Gluten Ataxia. He improved greatly after going gluten-free.

"Kudos" to your GI doctor for taking biopsies to check for MC and for acknowledging that, in fact, it is an IBD.

My anti-tissue tTg was also high back in May but is now normal after being GF since July 1. My anti-endomysial still showed positive and my IgG antibodies was up a little but I'm getting there. How are you doing with the GF diet? Some people have a hard time with it but I found it quite easy. If you are still having D, you may want to cut out dairy as well. Once I went dairy-free, my D improved but still did not completely go away. I'm now weaning off 8 weeks of Pepto treatment and it has worked well for me. You are right, meds won't cure us but can definitely help with the healing process and Entocort seems to work well for most. And it sounds like you were on it long enough but don't be surprised if you need to get back on it for a little while. With MC, until we remove all food intolerances, then the D manages to rear it's ugly head again. It's all about the diet.

Also, remember that it takes awhile for gluten antibodies to get out of the system. Like I said, I've been GF since July but last month's bloodwork still showed those suckers in my blood stream. Be careful when eating out as contamination is very high.

Read over the forum.....there's a wealth of information! MC is a very unrelenting disease....we have to be patient and play detectives in order to achieve remission.

Again, welcome and keep us updated!

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BTW I mainly have digestive issues, but I used to always get headaches and still have balance issues. I also had night sweats but those have diminished. I think all of us can relate to all or most of your symptoms. Isn't it nice when you can correspond with people who know exactly what you are going through? It definitely helps.

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Welcome Hans!

Interesting info about the tooth enamel. The enamel on the back of my lower teeth wore off years ago. My dental hygenist had asked me if I had an eating disorder! I couldn't believe she asked me that but I know it was out of concern. I chalked it up to liking citrus fruits. Anyways, I now think that gluten has been an issue for me for a long time.
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Hans,

Yes, I had occasional tremors prior to the diagnosis, but not very often. According to the neurologist, not everyone who has Parkinson's disease has tremors. I had none at the time of the diagnosis. He seemed to fixate on gait irregularities and balance problems (plus a loss of reflexes in my knee and ankle joints) as the main reasons for the diagnosis.

He didn't check my vitamin E levels, nor has any other doctor, to the best of my knowledge. Other than the amount in a multivitamin, I've never taken any vitamin E supplement.

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Wow Hans. Quite a story!
As Teri has said, you may have other food intolerances that could be causing inflammation. Dairy and soy and big ones for us. You may want to take them out and see how you feel. You can always reintroduce them later if you don't think it makes a difference. MC tends to bring on other intolerances.
I hope your neurological symptoms get better for you. You seem to have a great outlook about all of this. It's so important for healing..... and healing takes a long time.
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I'm suspecting the site is down.....
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This site!

What makes you suspect that?

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Hi Hans,

Welcome and what is the name of your dog? We love dogs on this site!

I was heavily stricken with brain/neurological issues about 3 months after D started from this disease. I suffered from about 80% of the symptoms that you listed below. I took your symptom list and put comments to the right in capitals of the items that I suffered from.


symptoms

the obvious MC related bowel problems
fatigue--YES,VERY COMMON W/ MC
joint aches and stiffness--YES,VERY COMMON W/ MC
nerve pain/ loss of sense/needles and pins in feet, legs, ribs, arms, hands, fingers, lips, tongue, face--YES I HAD TINGLING/PINS NEEDLES RUNNING UP AND DOWN ARMS
brain fog--YES I HAD THIS, AGAIN THIS IS VERY COMMON W/ MC
diminished sight/blurry vision--I HAD BLURRY VISION B/F GETTING ON ENTOCORT, I ALSO HAD SOME EYE ISSUES WHILE ON ENTOCORT. OTHERS HAVE HAD EYE ISSUES ON ENTOCORT, I ALSO HAD DRY EYE
dry skin--NO BUT I LIVE IN FLORIDA AND WE HAVE HIGH HUMIDITY HERE WHICH KEEPS THE SKIN MOIST
periods of frequent urinating
episodes of wobbly and insecure gait (drunkmans gait)--YES, I HAD THIS--PRETTY SEVERE
balance problems--YES, I HAD THIS, PRETTY SEVERE
involuntary muscle movements
trembling
over sensitive to sudden loud noises
episodes of slurry speech
speaking with ‘double tongue’ when tired--YES, --IF YOU MEAN REPEATING THE SAME SENTENCE, YES I HAD THIS PRETTY SEVERE AND HAD THIS FOR 10 YEARS B/F GETTING MC
periodic night sweats (mainly during intake of entocort)
raised lymph nodes in the throat/chin for over a year now

What helped me and some things to try:

1. I agree w/ Leah since you are really suffering go DF and SF in addition to GF. For calcium due to osteopenia take calcium citrate for awhile. After you are healed--down the road--you can retest dairy and soy and perhaps add them back in. It is also a good idea to get into a weight lifting regimen for the osteopenia. The weight lifting will help maintain bone density.

2. It takes a lot of protein to head into remission from this disease. I'm a 51 year old female and I was eating protein 3x per day with overcooked veggies. I'm guessing a man will need more protein. Try to eat things with less than 3 ingredients on the package.

3. This might not apply to you but I found my brain functioned better during the day if I made protein and overcooked veggies and some fats for breakfast and for my noon meal. At dinner I would have the same protein and overcooked veggies but added rice, white potato, sweet potato (yam), or corn chips in the evening. If I ate GF bread, rice, white potato, sweet potato or corn chips during the day I had extreme brain fog, dizziness, balance issues, problems finding words etc at work. Moving the starches to the evening really helped. It was like my mind was "clearer" during the work day. My mind did better also when I minimized portion size of starches in my diet. My food regimen consisted of proteins, overcooked veggies, fats, fruit in extreme moderation and then I filled in at my dinner meal with a starch for calories and to fill my belly but as a rule my brain functioned better w/ less starch. Again this may not apply to you but it is worth a try for a week or two. Just a thought.

4. Fats--fats are touchy in that too much can cause D but you want to get enough for quality brain function. Fats that most of us can tolerate are extra virgin olive oil, coconut oil and an avacado. I can tell now if I'm not getting enough fat in that my brain does not function as well. At present I'm eating an avacado every other day, I generously drizzle extra virgin olive oil on all of my veggies and fish and I do other cooking with coconut oil. Several other members take 2 tsp of coconut oil a day and eat it off of a spoon. On low fat days when I'm not eating much in the way of fats I'll eat coconut oil off of spoon.

5. HIGHLY RECOMMEND TALKING TO ONE OF YOUR DOCTORS ABOUT METANX GIVEN THE LEVEL SEVERITY OF THE NEUROLOGICAL SYMPTOMS YOU ARE HAVING. If you can't get into a doctor soon consider try a b multivitamin (that is GF, DF and soy free and doesn't have a lot of junk in it.) until you can talk to a doctor about Metanx. I suffered from the drunkmans gait for over a year and was not improving so tried the drug store version of over the counter Metanx and I responded well to it and it helped with my other neurological symptoms. Tex had written about it several times and I was tired of suffering. Given the extreme neurological issues you are having I would consider talk to your Dr about his/her thoughts regarding a Metanx prescription--again just a thought.

6. Re: Your entocort taper. I was a 4.5 month entocort user and have been off of it since Jan 15th 2012. This forum is great for asking entocort questions as a number of follks are on it, off it, or on a maintenance dose. Suggest really listen to your body in terms of your step down dosages instead of a doctor's instruction. If you step down too soon you'll just have to go back on it or upwards in dose again. Think long slow taper at low end. Many members are on Entocort 5, 6 months or more. Also--since you struggled with 1 pill, no pill, 1 pill and now I understand you are at one pill for awhile suggest next time you step down go one pill-- then 1/2 pill (pour out half--we learned that from another Netherlands poster), and then 1 pill, repeat etc for 4, 6 or 8 weeks again then try to go lower.

Other than some lingering fatigue I'm doing pretty well now, i.e. the neurological issues have resolved. It has taken awhile for me. You hopefully will heal faster since you are younger. I'm sure your wife is alarmed but please encourage her that others have gotten thru the neurological issues. My boyfriend was particularly alarmed when I spoke with the "double tongue". I never made it to a neurologist I think partly because my severe symptoms hit within 10 weeks of the D so I was almost certain it was linked to MC and then when I found this forum there was talk that the neurological issues were tied out to MC. I talked to a number of other docs re: the neurological symtoms but was told by GI doc #1 that joint pain and fatigue didn't exist with MC. I was laughed at by a lady radiologist when I talked to her about memory issues. My family physician implied that balance issues was normal for a 50 year old which I didn't understand how that could be in that I had no balance issues as a 49-1/2 and then at 50 have "drunkmans gait." Then I went thru a period of about 6 months in which I was too sick to go to doctors.

To close....you can get thru the neurological issues. In a way it was like my gut had to heal for my brain to heal. It took awhile for me to heal. Your English is great by the way particularly with brain fog! Let me know if you have any questions. I tried not to use too much jargon so hopefully you can follow.

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This site!

What makes you suspect that?

Tex
I had been on in the morning and when I got on last evening there were no new posts (like 10 hours later). Maybe we were just very quiet but that seemed unusual to me. It seems fine now. Deb
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Deb,

I was also surprised that no one had anything to say for most of the day. I took advantage of the opportunity to do some maintenance on the site, but I never closed it, and every time I checked, it seemed to be working fine.

A few years ago, (before the boom in MC diagnoses) the board was regularly as quiet as a mouse on weekends, especially during nice weather, but when Monday rolled around, it would be busy again. Even these days it's usually not as busy on weekends as it is the rest of the week.

I wonder if that happens because most people might like to take a break from even thinking about the disease for a day or two now and then, and the weekends are a convenient time to "get away from it all".

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Thanx for all the replies and advise!
I realy appreciate all the effort you guys put in to aiding others from your own experience.
And!! Its ever so nice to finaly tell my story to people that actualy do have a cleu what i'm on about!

I'll take some of it with me to my appointment with my GI this thursday and see what he has to say about it.
Will report back afterwords.
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Hi Hans,

I read your whole post. Thanks for writing. I have paresthesia too...tingling in the arms and legs, and celiac too. It is nice to hear that there are some good docs in Europe. We have the possibility of moving to Luxembourg for a few years. I may need to travel up to see that doc you like!

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