How to know what foods sensitive to?
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How to know what foods sensitive to?
Beyond the results of an Enterolab test, how do most of you know which other foods sensitive to? Some people are sensitive to so many, isn't it hard to tell, until there is some healing, without total elim diet? I don't eat a huge variety of foods, and sometimes I can react badly on the same foods, sometimes not.
Many of us have had the MRT testing in addition to Enterolab testing. I keep a daily food/symptom diary. It has helped immensely in determining which foods cause me problems.
I've determined some of my intolerances by reading this board. For example, I realized carrageenan was a problem after Polly mentioned she couldn't handle it.
Gloria
I've determined some of my intolerances by reading this board. For example, I realized carrageenan was a problem after Polly mentioned she couldn't handle it.
Gloria
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Re: How to know what foods sensitive to?
Hi Lisa,lisaw wrote:Beyond the results of an Enterolab test, how do most of you know which other foods sensitive to? Some people are sensitive to so many, isn't it hard to tell, until there is some healing, without total elim diet? I don't eat a huge variety of foods, and sometimes I can react badly on the same foods, sometimes not.
I agree with Gloria...definitely invest in the MRT testing. Although many of the foods I had already figured out that I was sensitive to, (for example- yogurt, cheese, artificial sweetners, sweet potatoes, cottage cheese) some of my results did surprise me (chicken and beef) and it helped to make sure I was going in the right direction.
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I figured out my major triggers, and quite alot of other influences to MC wellness based on keep a journal/ food diary.
Tracking inputs, routine and symptoms i was able to figure out the best times to eat, that i need to have coffee 30 mins away from food, and that i can handle carrot and cauliflower seperately, have them in the same meal and i get symptoms....
As i removed the major food triggers it became very evident that physical/mental/emotional stress is a trigger for me and in my previous job would schedule potentially draining meetings in the afternoons so i was at home if the MC mud would hit about 4 hours later.
I have done something similar to MRT, it was 14 months after DX, and confirmed most of what i had figured out with the food diary.
Tracking inputs, routine and symptoms i was able to figure out the best times to eat, that i need to have coffee 30 mins away from food, and that i can handle carrot and cauliflower seperately, have them in the same meal and i get symptoms....
As i removed the major food triggers it became very evident that physical/mental/emotional stress is a trigger for me and in my previous job would schedule potentially draining meetings in the afternoons so i was at home if the MC mud would hit about 4 hours later.
I have done something similar to MRT, it was 14 months after DX, and confirmed most of what i had figured out with the food diary.
Gabes Ryan
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
Thanks, everyone. I think for now, I'll just try and keep track. I didn't show up sensitive to dairy, but seems as if most on this board have, and have cut it out. I wonder about that, with respect to my own diet. I don't eat much of it, as I have a natural aversion to most dairy products, but do love these Fruitfull fruit and cream bars, eat one almost every day.
Hi Lisa,
A good alternative to those bars might be a coconut milk option. Blitz icecold coconut cream with fruit and sugar syrup, and pour into mold to freeze. That way you'll avoid the gums as well as the milk.
Dairy can be a worry, because even if you are not sensitive to casein (milk protein), you may be temporarily intolerant of lactose (milk sugar). That may well heal once your gut does.
Lyn
A good alternative to those bars might be a coconut milk option. Blitz icecold coconut cream with fruit and sugar syrup, and pour into mold to freeze. That way you'll avoid the gums as well as the milk.
Dairy can be a worry, because even if you are not sensitive to casein (milk protein), you may be temporarily intolerant of lactose (milk sugar). That may well heal once your gut does.
Lyn
Lisaw said
Lactose is the SUGAR molecule contained in dairy.
Casein is the PROTEIN molecule contained in dairy.
"Lactose intolerance" is NOT an “allergic” reaction. Rather, lactose ‘intolerance’ is the result of the body’s natural diminishing production of the particular enzyme (lactase) which is necessary to break down that lactose molecule (sugar) contained in dairy. Reduction of production of the lactase enzyme can begin in a person’s early adulthood.
Whereas, a Casein "alleregy" in caused by the body’s immune reaction to the protein molecule (casein). When this happens, the immune system then gears up a response by producing antibodies against that protein.
In any case, giving dairy a break is probably not a bad idea.
However, what I would say is that in the case of a natural reduction in the body’s production of the enzyme lactase, which is the active agent necessary for breaking down the lactose molecule … “healing” of the gut is not going to resolve the issue. If the enzyme is no longer being produced in sufficient quantity, there is simply nothing else avaailable to deal with (or digest) the lactose molecule.
Gayle
It’s the chemistry … in the most basic terms.What is the difference between lactose and casein, and wouldn't either pretty much be in any dairy product? Sounds like I should give dairy a break, at least while trying to heal?
Lactose is the SUGAR molecule contained in dairy.
Casein is the PROTEIN molecule contained in dairy.
"Lactose intolerance" is NOT an “allergic” reaction. Rather, lactose ‘intolerance’ is the result of the body’s natural diminishing production of the particular enzyme (lactase) which is necessary to break down that lactose molecule (sugar) contained in dairy. Reduction of production of the lactase enzyme can begin in a person’s early adulthood.
Whereas, a Casein "alleregy" in caused by the body’s immune reaction to the protein molecule (casein). When this happens, the immune system then gears up a response by producing antibodies against that protein.
In any case, giving dairy a break is probably not a bad idea.
However, what I would say is that in the case of a natural reduction in the body’s production of the enzyme lactase, which is the active agent necessary for breaking down the lactose molecule … “healing” of the gut is not going to resolve the issue. If the enzyme is no longer being produced in sufficient quantity, there is simply nothing else avaailable to deal with (or digest) the lactose molecule.
Gayle
Lisa, if you can afford it and get a doctor's referral, I echo what everyone suggested in regard to testing. I did the elimination diet and have been on what I thought to be "safe" foods for almost two months, but have still been struggling (on three doses of entercort and 6 peptos a day). Finally got tested today and learned foods I thought were okay (bananas, coconut, chicken, salmon, among others), might not be after all. But I learned foods I had been avoiding (soy and wheat) might not cause me problems. Although there are common allergies, we're all sooo different!