phosphatidylserine supplement
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phosphatidylserine supplement
Just read an article from News Max Health that said this supplement is good for the brain, ie preventing Parkinsons, etc., but it' derived from soy, among other things. I've stayed away from soy, using organic tamari when stir frying. I can't remember if it's the pesticides or just plain gluten in soy mainly that bothers MC, or if we can safely try organic soy? My mother just passed away from complications from Parkinsons and some of the nurses think her Parkinsons was drug induced, since the Drs. prescribed anything and everything for her in the past few yrs, but if it isn't, was thinking this may be a preventive supplement to take. Any thoughts on this, since soy is in it?
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Sorry, meant that I use organic Tamari sauce when stir frying, NOT soy. Guess my brain isn't working this morn. Disregard this, found the place to edit my first post, so it's fixed now. Duh. Btw, doing really well on the GF diet, but did get into some gluten in something I didn't read the ingredients well on before trying. The first time I ate it, was ok, but not the second time.
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Hi Lulu,
First, there is no gluten in soy (though gluten is definitely usually present in traditional soy sauce). However, that's sort of a moot point, because most of us here are also sensitive to soy, so we have to avoid all forms of soy, including soy lecithin and soy oils (found in many foods, candies, and vitamin supplements).
IMO, the best way to prevent the development of Parkinson's, Alzheimer's, or other dementia-related diseases, is to take plenty of vitamins B-12, B-9, and B-6, in the proper ratio, continue using nicotine if you are using it now, make sure that there is plenty of cholesterol, animal fats, and omega-3 fatty acids in your diet, and try to maintain your cholesterol at a much higher level than your doctor recommends.
Trust me, if the guidelines that doctors recommend had any benefits for preventing the development of Parkinson's, Alzheimer's or any other diseases, for that matter, the prevalence of those diseases wouldn't be continually increasing.
My recommendations might sound like insane advice, but there's method to my madness. I was diagnosed with Parkinson's disease almost 4 years ago, and after taking a prescription vitamin compound that contains the active forms of vitamin B-12, B-9, and B-6, I have since been undiagnosed. The product is called Metanx, and it was originally formulated to treat peripheral neuropathy, which is a problem that sometimes develops with diabetes mellitus.
I had peripheral neuropathy and other neurological damage that was caused, IMO, by years of untreated gluten sensitivity. But the neurologist insisted that gluten can't cause neurological damage, and based on my symptoms, he diagnosed me with Parkinson's. He is wrong, of course, about gluten not being able to cause neurological damage, because there are plenty of medical research data available to prove it, if he would just bother to update his knowledge.
The point is, I had (and still have) neurological damage, balance issues, gait irregularities, memory issues, etc., but they are far less of a problem now than they were a few years ago, so I no longer qualify for a diagnosis of Parkinson's disease. And I truly believe that the primary reasons for that are my habit of smoking 3 or 4 cigars on most days (to get the nicotine benefit), taking Metanix daily (to get the necessary B vitamins), and always keeping plenty of cholesterol and animal fats in my diet, and taking supplemental omega-3 oils, such as flaxseed oil and fish oil.
Incidentally, besides helping to prevent the development of Alzheimer's and Parkinson's, higher cholesterol levels increase longevity, and provide other health benefits. This doesn't apply to middle-aged people of course, but for anyone over the age of about 65 or so, research shows that the higher our cholesterol level, the longer we are likely to live.
If you would like to read more about these topics, or see some research references to back up what I am saying, I've included some links to additional research information.
For nicotine:
http://www.forces.org/evidence/hamilton ... cotine.htm
http://www.kshb.com/dpp/news/health/cou ... w-dementia
http://nahypothyroidism.org/an-immune-s ... r-tobacco/
For B vitamins:
http://www.drbriffa.com/2013/05/23/b-vi ... ight-loss/
http://jeromeburne.com/2013/05/21/alzhe ... -vitamins/
For Cholesterol:
http://people.csail.mit.edu/seneff/why_ ... _work.html
http://qjmed.oxfordjournals.org/content ... eytype=ref
http://www.amjmed.com/article/S0002-934 ... 1/abstract
http://www.ctds.info/low_cholesterol.html
For high carb diets:
http://people.csail.mit.edu/seneff/EJIM_PUBLISHED.pdf
Tex
First, there is no gluten in soy (though gluten is definitely usually present in traditional soy sauce). However, that's sort of a moot point, because most of us here are also sensitive to soy, so we have to avoid all forms of soy, including soy lecithin and soy oils (found in many foods, candies, and vitamin supplements).
IMO, the best way to prevent the development of Parkinson's, Alzheimer's, or other dementia-related diseases, is to take plenty of vitamins B-12, B-9, and B-6, in the proper ratio, continue using nicotine if you are using it now, make sure that there is plenty of cholesterol, animal fats, and omega-3 fatty acids in your diet, and try to maintain your cholesterol at a much higher level than your doctor recommends.
Trust me, if the guidelines that doctors recommend had any benefits for preventing the development of Parkinson's, Alzheimer's or any other diseases, for that matter, the prevalence of those diseases wouldn't be continually increasing.
My recommendations might sound like insane advice, but there's method to my madness. I was diagnosed with Parkinson's disease almost 4 years ago, and after taking a prescription vitamin compound that contains the active forms of vitamin B-12, B-9, and B-6, I have since been undiagnosed. The product is called Metanx, and it was originally formulated to treat peripheral neuropathy, which is a problem that sometimes develops with diabetes mellitus.
I had peripheral neuropathy and other neurological damage that was caused, IMO, by years of untreated gluten sensitivity. But the neurologist insisted that gluten can't cause neurological damage, and based on my symptoms, he diagnosed me with Parkinson's. He is wrong, of course, about gluten not being able to cause neurological damage, because there are plenty of medical research data available to prove it, if he would just bother to update his knowledge.
The point is, I had (and still have) neurological damage, balance issues, gait irregularities, memory issues, etc., but they are far less of a problem now than they were a few years ago, so I no longer qualify for a diagnosis of Parkinson's disease. And I truly believe that the primary reasons for that are my habit of smoking 3 or 4 cigars on most days (to get the nicotine benefit), taking Metanix daily (to get the necessary B vitamins), and always keeping plenty of cholesterol and animal fats in my diet, and taking supplemental omega-3 oils, such as flaxseed oil and fish oil.
Incidentally, besides helping to prevent the development of Alzheimer's and Parkinson's, higher cholesterol levels increase longevity, and provide other health benefits. This doesn't apply to middle-aged people of course, but for anyone over the age of about 65 or so, research shows that the higher our cholesterol level, the longer we are likely to live.
If you would like to read more about these topics, or see some research references to back up what I am saying, I've included some links to additional research information.
For nicotine:
http://www.forces.org/evidence/hamilton ... cotine.htm
http://www.kshb.com/dpp/news/health/cou ... w-dementia
http://nahypothyroidism.org/an-immune-s ... r-tobacco/
For B vitamins:
http://www.drbriffa.com/2013/05/23/b-vi ... ight-loss/
http://jeromeburne.com/2013/05/21/alzhe ... -vitamins/
For Cholesterol:
http://people.csail.mit.edu/seneff/why_ ... _work.html
http://qjmed.oxfordjournals.org/content ... eytype=ref
http://www.amjmed.com/article/S0002-934 ... 1/abstract
http://www.ctds.info/low_cholesterol.html
For high carb diets:
http://people.csail.mit.edu/seneff/EJIM_PUBLISHED.pdf
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Tex, you made my day, thank you so much for your always good info. I also was diag w/ Peripheral Neuropathy a few yrs ago with no known cause, and have since decided it was from my gluten intolerance, which I didn't know about at the time, but have read that. I was diag w/ a spastic colon when about 17, but never knew any more about it. I do think I may have some thyroid problems, but scared of the traditional meds for that, not wanting it to interfere w/ my MC & have the big D come back, after working so hard to eliminate it & it took about 11 mos. I DO think mom's Parkinsons was drug induced, though, IF it was that. Now you have me wondering. She had such a hard time, and when she died last mo., I felt relieved for her, even tho I miss her terribly. The meds for it made her hallucinate and it was just awful. The whole thing was so frustrating. She was 87, but so healthy until it came along, then the Lewey Bodies dementia with it. I felt the Drs. were pretty inept on the whole thing. Will look further into this. I try to remember to take sublingual B12, but will look at your vitamin more when have a bit more time today or tomorrow. You're a wealth of knowledge and just noticed you have a book. Will also order that when have a minute. Thanks again.
You can't change the wind, but you can adjust the sails.
Lulu,
Note that my third (last) reference under the nicotine category discusses the link between an ingredient in tobacco (and other nightshades), and thyroid issues:
I have never removed potatoes and chili peppers from my diet (despite their bad reputation), because of the advantages that they offer (as noted in that article). While my symptoms will probably never completely resolve, they are much improved, and as long as I can prevent them from progressing further, I'm a happy camper.
You're very welcome,
Tex
Note that my third (last) reference under the nicotine category discusses the link between an ingredient in tobacco (and other nightshades), and thyroid issues:
Most people consider the nightshades to be bad for health, but in fact (provided that we can tolerate them), ingredients that occur naturally in them may be very helpful for treating many serious health issues (such as thyroid function problems, and dementia-related syndromes).Anatabine is a naturally-occuring alkaloid also found in eggplants, peppers, green tomatoes, potatoes, and a variety of other plants in the Solanaceae (nightshade) family, including Nicotiana, the Latin term for tobacco.
I have never removed potatoes and chili peppers from my diet (despite their bad reputation), because of the advantages that they offer (as noted in that article). While my symptoms will probably never completely resolve, they are much improved, and as long as I can prevent them from progressing further, I'm a happy camper.
You're very welcome,
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
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I tried coconut aminos in place of soy sauce. They tasted really good but I seem to react to high histamine foods and since coconut aminos are fermented they are no doubt high in histamine. I seem to no longer be able to eat any fermented foods even though I used to make sauerkraut and kimchi and other fermented veggies. IF you don't have a problem with high histamine foods, coconut aminos should work for you.
Jean
Jean
I've used the fermented cabbage with no complaints, guess I'll have to see, huh? The Chiro. said that the fermented cabbage has more probiotics in it than most stuff, so try to remember to eat 1/4 C. daily, but don't always do that. Thanks, we can't get too much info on this problem, huh?
You can't change the wind, but you can adjust the sails.
Nicotine & chili peppers
Tex, I had to delete chili peppers from my diet for awhile, but back again eating them, and love salsa more than almost anything. I am using liquid nicotine in an ecig, so that I don't smoke anymore, due to bronchitis & the cigarette smoking political correctness. Do you think that would help? Now we may get killed, talking about nicotine being helpful. ha
You can't change the wind, but you can adjust the sails.
Any form of nicotine should work. Nicotine patches have been proven to be effective at controlling the symptoms of ulcerative colitis, so you could probably smear nicotine on your skin and get a similar effect.
Yep, talking about using any form of nicotine in polite society is definitely politically incorrect, these days.
Tex
Yep, talking about using any form of nicotine in polite society is definitely politically incorrect, these days.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Reading this thread I thought it might help to clear up any ambiguity.
Soy (soy beans) the plant does not contain gluten.
Soy Sauce usually does contain gluten, as wheat is added to the soy beans as part of the fermentation process. Some newer Soy Sauces claim to be gluten free due to the level of processing applied to the wheat. Whether you choose to trust that or not is up to you. I don't.
Tamari is a sauce similar to Soy Sauce, but made using only soy beans (no wheat) and produced using a slightly different process.
So your Tamari will be gluten free, but it does contain Soy.
Most of us cannot tolerate gluten, and a lot of us cannot tolerate soy. If you are eliminating soy to work out if it causes problems, you need to eliminate Tamari as well (along with soy oil in all the sneaky places it hides). If you are not eliminating soy, you are OK to eat Tamari.
Soy (soy beans) the plant does not contain gluten.
Soy Sauce usually does contain gluten, as wheat is added to the soy beans as part of the fermentation process. Some newer Soy Sauces claim to be gluten free due to the level of processing applied to the wheat. Whether you choose to trust that or not is up to you. I don't.
Tamari is a sauce similar to Soy Sauce, but made using only soy beans (no wheat) and produced using a slightly different process.
So your Tamari will be gluten free, but it does contain Soy.
Most of us cannot tolerate gluten, and a lot of us cannot tolerate soy. If you are eliminating soy to work out if it causes problems, you need to eliminate Tamari as well (along with soy oil in all the sneaky places it hides). If you are not eliminating soy, you are OK to eat Tamari.
I just stay away from soy because I think I've reacted to soy ingred. before, but haven't been tested yet. Will watch my tamari intake now, and do plan to do the testing before long. I did have a test from the Dr., but by then I was gluten free, and she didn't realize that it didn't work when you aren't using gluten, which I didn't either at the time, so will do the entero lab test sometime this summer, probably. Thanks for all of you guys clearing up so many things for us members. I don't know what we'd do without being able to come to this support board to clear up confusion on this very frustrating disease. So far I haven't reacted to the Tamari, but have only used small amounts of it, and not often. I did however, react to a soy ingredient in a stir fry seasoning I tried, so gets crazy. It was SO good, but had to chuck it.
You can't change the wind, but you can adjust the sails.
I know this has been discussed here before but coconut aminos make a nice substitute for soy sauce and have no soy or gluten.
http://www.amazon.com/Coconut-Aminos-Tw ... B005CHR06I
http://www.amazon.com/Coconut-Aminos-Tw ... B005CHR06I
Bragg also has a liquid aminos product, but it is made from soy.
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_ ... cery%2C313
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_ ... cery%2C313
Brenda