Dr. Hoffman

nerdhume · Post by **nerdhume** » Fri Feb 13, 2015 5:27 am

Ran across this site (Intelligent Medicine) and wondered if anyone else had read about it.
On the home page are 2 interesting articles:
Magnesium threonate powers the brain
and
The truth about thyroid function that doctors always seem to get wrong
http://drhoffman.com/

Post by **tex** » Fri Feb 13, 2015 10:49 am

Hmmmm. The topic of the first article is news to me, but it does appear to be interesting. And the second article (about thyroid treatments) is quite excellent, IMO. He's definitely correct — the indirect tests that doctors perform (by serum testing) to check thyroid function don't actually tell us anything about how well the treatment performs where the rubber meets the road — in the cells, where it's actually used.

Thanks for the link.

Tex

nerdhume · Post by **nerdhume** » Sat Feb 14, 2015 5:37 am

Thanks Tex, I was waiting for your take on it. I don't have thyroid issues as far as I know and haven't really researched the subject.
As for the threonate magnesium...it might be worth a try.

There is much info on the site, but you have to search for 'colitis' or 'IBD' to find it. This article was interesting regarding natural treatments:
http://drhoffman.com/article/natural-tr ... l-disease/

Lilja · Post by **Lilja** » Sat Feb 14, 2015 10:37 am

Hi Theresa,

I have tried to google "threonate" but I got no wiser. What does threonate actually mean?

Lilia

Post by **tex** » Sat Feb 14, 2015 12:27 pm

Lilia,

Threose is a sugar or carbohydrate (a monosaccharide). Threonic acid is a sugar acid derived from threose. The L-isomer is a derivative of ascorbic acid (vitamin C). IOW, treating ascorbic acid with threonic acid yields (among other things) L-threose.

We can't take pure magnesium, but magnesium comes in many forms of shelf-stable combinations with other compounds that can be used as a magnesium supplement, such as magnesium citrate, magnesium carbonate, magnesium glycinate, magnesium sulfate, etc. The newest form appears to be magnesium threonate, which is created by combining magnesium with L-threose. It's simply another way to supplement with magnesium. The primary difference is that magnesium threonate crosses the blood brain barrier and apparently provides neurological benefits in additional to the usual benefits of magnesium, and it is claimed to be much more effective at penetrating cell membranes to get to where it is needed.

Tex

Post by **tex** » Sat Feb 14, 2015 12:35 pm

Theresa,

Dr. Hoffman appears to promote a treatment method similar to what we advocate on this board, except that he is much stronger on supplements (including IV administration of supplements).

Tex

nerdhume · Post by **nerdhume** » Sun Feb 15, 2015 5:17 am

Yes, Tex I read that treatment at his clinic includes IV supplements. Wouldn't that be the ultimate treatment? To know the vitamins and minerals were actually getting into the bloodstream and not worsening MC symptoms, or being 'passed through' without absorption.

Lilia, not sure what happened, maybe you spelled it wrong. When I googled it I got many results including several places to buy it.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24077207
I plan to order some.

Lilja · Post by **Lilja** » Sun Feb 15, 2015 8:36 am

nerdhume wrote:Yes, Tex I read that treatment at his clinic includes IV supplements. Wouldn't that be the ultimate treatment? To know the vitamins and minerals were actually getting into the bloodstream and not worsening MC symptoms, or being 'passed through' without absorption.

Lilia, not sure what happened, maybe you spelled it wrong. When I googled it I got many results including several places to buy it.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24077207
I plan to order some.

Thank you Theresa. Yes I spelled it wrong, because I didn't put the L in front of "threonate".

I found the background for the study quite interesting..."Clinical studies have shown that about two-thirds of patients with chronic pain suffer from short-term memory (STM) deficits and an effective drug for treatment of the neurological disorder is lacking at present".

I can relate to that, but I thought back then when I was really sick, that my lack of short time memory was due to the brain fog (opioids) I suffered from, and not a result of my pains.

Lilia

Lilja · Post by **Lilja** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 3:36 am

Hi,

I have now ordered Magnesium L-Threonate, Magtein, 667 mg.

Is there any known recommended amount one should take?

Lilia

nerdhume · Post by **nerdhume** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 7:00 am

http://www.magtein.com/faqs.html
I was reading this article today. I took my first (75 mg magnesium from 1042 mg Magtein) capsule yesterday morning. I felt 'weird' all day yesterday. Like my head was too full?? Hard to describe...a little dizzy, nauseous, etc. Didn't realize these were side effects when first taking this supplement.
The article recommends 1 G twice daily which is exactly what my capsules are.

I already took another one this morning as the directions on the bottle say it should be taken on an empty stomach. I noticed the directions on the article suggest with a meal.

brandy · Post by **brandy** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 7:18 pm

Lilja and NH,s

Can you keep us posted on how you do on these? I'm at risk for alzheimers so I'm curious. My mag citrate I take in the evening to help with sleep.

Brandy

Lilja · Post by **Lilja** » Fri Mar 06, 2015 5:31 am

Hi

I have been taking Magtein from Source Naturals, 1 tablet of 667 mg, each day for 6 days. I agree with Nerdhume. I've felt weird, as though too much blood has entered my brain.

Another thing, I've been so tired. I have had to have a nap in the afternoon (approx 30 min), I fall asleep in front of the TV around 9 pm, and when I go to bed around 11 pm, I fall asleep as soon as my head has reached the pillow. When I wake up around 8 am I don't feel refreshed, I could easily sleep more.

This is quite new to me; I have never needed much sleep, apart from when I was very sick.

I think I will have to wait for some 2-3 weeks before I can draw any conclusions.

PS: I also have to pee much more than usual, but this is perhaps an effect of the tapering of Entocort; the bladder gets too active again as it used to be prior to Entocort.

Lilia

DebE13 · Post by **DebE13** » Sun Mar 08, 2015 7:29 pm

Thanks for sharing, very interesting! I like the following part of his article:

"6) Who says blood tests are the best way to assess the adequacy of your T3? T3 acts deep within the nucleus of the cell, and it’s impossible to measure levels there with a blood test. Even if your blood tests are in normal range, what’s to say that there is adequate T3 in the nucleus to power optimal gene transcription? Another way of saying this is that a given level of T3 on a blood test may be fine for one organ, but not sufficient for another.

7) Sick patients don’t convert well. Patients with a wide gamut of non-thyroid illnesses have high levels of reverse T3. Reverse T3 is an inactive form of T3 that is incapable of promoting gene transcription, as T3 does. Elevated reverse T3 can sometimes be used to indicate that not enough T3 is being utilized by the cells. Sometimes, certain drugs can interfere with thyroid function. Stress, too, via excess cortisol, can unhinge T4 to T3 conversion.

So, there are a lot of reasons to favor the use of T4/T3 combinations, or piggy-backing pure synthetic T3 (Cytomel) onto standard T4 thyroid replacement drugs. This can be literally life-changing for many hypothyroid patients."

I've never had my reverse T3 tested, maybe I should ask.

- See more at: http://drhoffman.com/article/the-truth- ... xNNyy.dpuf

nerdhume · Post by **nerdhume** » Tue Mar 10, 2015 5:56 am

I have been taking the Magtein (75 mg magnesium from 1042 mg Magtein) for a couple of weeks. I 'tinkered' around a bit and ended up taking 1 capsule with breakfast each morning. This week I have added another one at bedtime. I believe it is helping with my memory issues. I KNOW it has helped with my sleep, and I have the most wonderful dreams! They seem so real! Previously I hardly ever had dreams. It probably has something to do with more REM sleep.
I have also experimented with glutamine for a while. Apparently glutamine in the right dosage is very good for colitis and diarrhea.
When I tried this before I had 500 mg capsules. The recommendation is 10-40 grams per day! I bought some glutamine powder and am now taking 1/2 teaspoon 3 times a day, 30 minutes before meals on an empty stomach. To have the effect of causing the colon to remove more water from the stool it must be taken on an empty stomach. It seems to be working, am planning to increase the dosage very gradually as this may actually cause diarrhea if taken too much too soon.

Tladymcq · Post by **Tladymcq** » Tue Mar 10, 2015 10:11 am

I am seeing pills and powders on Amazon but wasn't sure if there is another outlet to purchase from?

Thank you in advance!

~Teri

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