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Hi Louis,
Welcome!
Don't despair. You are at the right place! I did best with a lot of protein then filled in with other foods. Venison, quail, duck, rabbit, wild game, shrimp, fish, escargot, shellfish etc.. I would say gator meat but you are not in Florida so it is probably not an option. Sweet potato, rutabaga, turnips, squash, carrots, beets all overcooked. As you get better try broccoli and cauliflower overcooked and sparingly as can cause gas. My boyfriend and I do not like turnips or rutabagas but we boil them and mash with boiled sweet potatoes to get a mashed result. (Peel everything first.) We are generally safe with olive oil and coconut oils.
As you get better with time you can selectively test tuna and white potato and add in occasionally.
Way down the road as you are feeling much better you can test chicken and pork and add in occasionally. The proteins are probably the safest item in your level 2 listing.
I still don't eat my level 3 stuff.
Hopefully some other folks can chime in.
Brandy
Welcome!
Don't despair. You are at the right place! I did best with a lot of protein then filled in with other foods. Venison, quail, duck, rabbit, wild game, shrimp, fish, escargot, shellfish etc.. I would say gator meat but you are not in Florida so it is probably not an option. Sweet potato, rutabaga, turnips, squash, carrots, beets all overcooked. As you get better try broccoli and cauliflower overcooked and sparingly as can cause gas. My boyfriend and I do not like turnips or rutabagas but we boil them and mash with boiled sweet potatoes to get a mashed result. (Peel everything first.) We are generally safe with olive oil and coconut oils.
As you get better with time you can selectively test tuna and white potato and add in occasionally.
Way down the road as you are feeling much better you can test chicken and pork and add in occasionally. The proteins are probably the safest item in your level 2 listing.
I still don't eat my level 3 stuff.
Hopefully some other folks can chime in.
Brandy
Hi Louis,
Believe it or not, results similar to yours are actually quite common among people who have MC. And as depressing as it may seem (if you only focus on the foods that you cannot eat), the information in those test results should be viewed as good, because it's your key to get your life back. And now, as Brandy has pointed out in her very helpful post, you can eat those gourmet foods that you probably never had an excuse to eat before. You will be surprised at how many foods you can eat (and how tasty they can be), and that's what you should focus on (rather than thinking about the foods that you cannot eat, because they are no longer food for you — they have a toxic effect on your body and your health).
The foods that you can safely eat will nourish your body back to good health. It's never much fun to have to drastically change our diet, especially when we had no intention to change our diet. But the human body is amazingly adaptive, and most of us have found that if we look around a bit, we can find plenty of foods that we can enjoy eating. Most of us are also surprised to discover that after we eat these "new" foods for a while, they begin to taste a heck of a lot better than we ever thought they would, especially after we begin to feel much better as our symptoms begin to fade away.
And as Brandy mentioned, after we have been in remission for a while, we can safely begin to experiment with other foods, if we want to expand our menu choices.
As far as common sources of good meat choices go, virtually no one here reacts to turkey, or lamb, so those should be 2 safe options to begin with. And as Brandy pointed out, various types of wild game animals and fowl are almost always safe choices. Protein is very important for healing, because it takes a lot of protein to heal the damage caused to the intestines by the inflammation associated with MC.
For a milk substitute, to the best of my knowledge, those of us who react to almonds have still been able to use almond milk without any problems. And if almond milk seems to cause problems, coconut milk should be a safe choice. Olive oil is also usually a safe oil to use.
Life is good after MC — it's just different than it was before. And it it does take a while to make the necessary adjustments, and it takes a while for the gut to heal. For many/most of us though, we are better off than we were to begin with, because we end up eating a diet that is much healthier, and those changes will pay off in improved longevity and higher quality of life as we get older. Many of us discover that by changing our diet we have effectively eliminated other common health issues that plague so many of our friends and relatives (such as arthritis, asthma, fibromyalgia, eczema, psoriasis, etc.).
Please feel free to ask, anytime you have questions about any foods that you are eating, or considering eating, because many of us have faced the same issues at one time or another.
Do you mind if I add your results to our list here?
Tex
Believe it or not, results similar to yours are actually quite common among people who have MC. And as depressing as it may seem (if you only focus on the foods that you cannot eat), the information in those test results should be viewed as good, because it's your key to get your life back. And now, as Brandy has pointed out in her very helpful post, you can eat those gourmet foods that you probably never had an excuse to eat before. You will be surprised at how many foods you can eat (and how tasty they can be), and that's what you should focus on (rather than thinking about the foods that you cannot eat, because they are no longer food for you — they have a toxic effect on your body and your health).
The foods that you can safely eat will nourish your body back to good health. It's never much fun to have to drastically change our diet, especially when we had no intention to change our diet. But the human body is amazingly adaptive, and most of us have found that if we look around a bit, we can find plenty of foods that we can enjoy eating. Most of us are also surprised to discover that after we eat these "new" foods for a while, they begin to taste a heck of a lot better than we ever thought they would, especially after we begin to feel much better as our symptoms begin to fade away.
And as Brandy mentioned, after we have been in remission for a while, we can safely begin to experiment with other foods, if we want to expand our menu choices.
As far as common sources of good meat choices go, virtually no one here reacts to turkey, or lamb, so those should be 2 safe options to begin with. And as Brandy pointed out, various types of wild game animals and fowl are almost always safe choices. Protein is very important for healing, because it takes a lot of protein to heal the damage caused to the intestines by the inflammation associated with MC.
For a milk substitute, to the best of my knowledge, those of us who react to almonds have still been able to use almond milk without any problems. And if almond milk seems to cause problems, coconut milk should be a safe choice. Olive oil is also usually a safe oil to use.
Life is good after MC — it's just different than it was before. And it it does take a while to make the necessary adjustments, and it takes a while for the gut to heal. For many/most of us though, we are better off than we were to begin with, because we end up eating a diet that is much healthier, and those changes will pay off in improved longevity and higher quality of life as we get older. Many of us discover that by changing our diet we have effectively eliminated other common health issues that plague so many of our friends and relatives (such as arthritis, asthma, fibromyalgia, eczema, psoriasis, etc.).
Please feel free to ask, anytime you have questions about any foods that you are eating, or considering eating, because many of us have faced the same issues at one time or another.
Do you mind if I add your results to our list here?
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
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louis
Thanks brandy and tex for the posts.
Right now my main focus or goal is to improve my psoriasis connected to MC.
Brandy suggests eating alot of meat and fish and i understand this, as it gives you all the important nutrition we need, but
on the other hand ive heard that meat or animal protein in general is bad for you if you try to heal from psoriasis, as your body
think the protein is toxic and inflames the skin. As i react 3+ to beef and 2+ to chicken and pork, is it really safe to eat lamb and turkey if
i want to improve my psoriasis? Also its impossible here to find biological turkey.
Also thanks Tex for the long answer, even tho it dont looks like alot to eat right now. Especially when you are not at home. Would be interesting to know how you guys get enough energy for the day with almost no carbohydrates. Eating lots of fruit might not be the right answer, or? Atleast, I dont have trouble digesting fruits for the most parts.
Right now my main focus or goal is to improve my psoriasis connected to MC.
Brandy suggests eating alot of meat and fish and i understand this, as it gives you all the important nutrition we need, but
on the other hand ive heard that meat or animal protein in general is bad for you if you try to heal from psoriasis, as your body
think the protein is toxic and inflames the skin. As i react 3+ to beef and 2+ to chicken and pork, is it really safe to eat lamb and turkey if
i want to improve my psoriasis? Also its impossible here to find biological turkey.
Also thanks Tex for the long answer, even tho it dont looks like alot to eat right now. Especially when you are not at home. Would be interesting to know how you guys get enough energy for the day with almost no carbohydrates. Eating lots of fruit might not be the right answer, or? Atleast, I dont have trouble digesting fruits for the most parts.
Yes, it is safe to eat lamb and turkey. Psoriasis is almost always caused by a sensitivity to gluten and dairy products. Lamb and turkey will not cause psoriasis, because they do not cause the production of antibodies. Protein is essential for your intestines to heal, and if your intestines do not heal, your psoriasis cannot heal either.Louis wrote:As i react 3+ to beef and 2+ to chicken and pork, is it really safe to eat lamb and turkey if
i want to improve my psoriasis? Also its impossible here to find biological turkey.
I'm not sure what you mean by "biological" turkey, but if that is what we call "organic" turkey in this country, don't worry that it is not biological, because that will not matter for your recovery. Just make sure that the turkey is not injected with "tenderizing" or "moisturizing" solutions, because those solutions sometimes contain gluten.
We get our energy from eating plenty of protein and fat. Carbohydrates cause a rapid rise in blood sugar (and therefore a rapid surge of energy), but they soon burn out and blood sugar goes down relatively quickly. Eating mostly protein and fat, blood sugar rises more slowly, and remains relatively steady for a long time. By doing this we avoid the noticeable peaks and valleys in energy caused by a high-carbohydrate diet. We don't experience the bigger surges of energy that result from a high-carbohydrate diet, but we don't have the periods of depressed energy that follow those peaks, either. Our energy remains relatively steady for much longer periods.
Fruits contain a lot of sugar (carbohydrates).
You're very welcome,
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
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louis
Yes, I meant organic.
Organic in german means biologisch, what also translates with biological. But I used it in the wrong context.
Ok, so i will give turkey and lamb a try. Also veggies, sweet potatos and for Oil I will use only Coconut Oil. I cant tolerate olive oil.
And maybe just some fruits and a very few driet fruits, 1 or 2 walnuts a day.
Thats it. Thanks for clearing this up.
Organic in german means biologisch, what also translates with biological. But I used it in the wrong context.
Ok, so i will give turkey and lamb a try. Also veggies, sweet potatos and for Oil I will use only Coconut Oil. I cant tolerate olive oil.
And maybe just some fruits and a very few driet fruits, 1 or 2 walnuts a day.
Thats it. Thanks for clearing this up.
Hi Louis,louis wrote:Thanks brandy and tex for the posts.
Right now my main focus or goal is to improve my psoriasis connected to MC.
Brandy suggests eating alot of meat and fish and i understand this, as it gives you all the important nutrition we need, but
on the other hand ive heard that meat or animal protein in general is bad for you if you try to heal from psoriasis, as your body
think the protein is toxic and inflames the skin. As i react 3+ to beef and 2+ to chicken and pork, is it really safe to eat lamb and turkey if
i want to improve my psoriasis? Also its impossible here to find biological turkey.
Also thanks Tex for the long answer, even tho it dont looks like alot to eat right now. Especially when you are not at home. Would be interesting to know how you guys get enough energy for the day with almost no carbohydrates. Eating lots of fruit might not be the right answer, or? Atleast, I dont have trouble digesting fruits for the most parts.
I have had psoriasis for 40 years, and it was only when I cut out gluten and dairy that the red and white flaky spots that covered 80% of my body, disappeared. After having avoided gluten, dairy (and for some reason porc) for 1 year, my skin turned out perfect in 2014!
I had more antibodies to casein than to gluten, and by avoiding both - and also porc meat - I don't have psoriasis that is visible any longer. The psoriasis arthritis has also gotten much better.
I wish you the best of luck on your journey to good health!
Lilia
Collagenous Colitis diagnosis in 2010
Psoriasis in 1973, symptom free in 2014
GF, CF and SF free since April, 2013
Psoriasis in 1973, symptom free in 2014
GF, CF and SF free since April, 2013
Lilia,
Thank you for validating my post by sharing your very impressive personal experience resolving psoriasis by means of your diet changes. That's very powerful evidence that the diet changes work.
Tex
Thank you for validating my post by sharing your very impressive personal experience resolving psoriasis by means of your diet changes. That's very powerful evidence that the diet changes work.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
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Welcome Louis. You have definitely come to the right place. Good luck in your healing journey. :)
Lilia, thank you for your post. My husband doesn't have MC like I do, but he has had psoriasis for probably 40 years. I've been trying to convince him to go at least 100% gluten free. He just read your post and is convinced!
Paula
Lilia, thank you for your post. My husband doesn't have MC like I do, but he has had psoriasis for probably 40 years. I've been trying to convince him to go at least 100% gluten free. He just read your post and is convinced!
Paula
Paula
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"You'll never know how strong you are until being strong is the only choice you have."
"Life is not about waiting for the storm to pass... It's learning to dance in the rain."
No, they are not tested because it would be a waste of money to test for them — no one reacts to them. Tests are expensive, because each protein must be tested individually. Therefore the test panels only include tests for the most common foods that are the most likely to cause people to react, in order to keep the test panels affordable.Jonas wrote:Is lamb/turkey tested on the Enterolab tests? If they are not tested how can we know that they are safe?
We have over 2,000 members. Out of all those members, and over the 10 years of this board's existence, I can recall a single member who claimed that he/she reacted to one of those foods (lamb). And remember that many newbies may claim that they react to various foods, and they tend to blame anything but gluten and casein, when gluten and casein are almost always their main problems, rather than some of the foods that they suspect. Before I cut gluten out of my diet, I seemed to react to anything and everything, at random.
There are never any guarantees when it comes to MC and food sensitivities, so the best we can do is to follow the statistics. And the statistics indicate that lamb and turkey are the safest of the common commercially-produced meats available.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.