Probiotic Enema
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Probiotic Enema
A probiotic enema was recommended by my integrative medicine practitioner. I am intolerant of oral probiotics. I'm wondering if bypassing the rest of my digestive system and addressing only the large intestine will work or if I would be subjecting myself to a major gut upset. Has anyone tried a probiotic enema and tolerated it better than oral probiotics?
- natythingycolbery
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My GI actually told me to stay completely clear of probiotics altogether. Apart from that I am unable to answer your question. I hope someone else with more experience can answer soon to help you.
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Diagnosed with MC (LC) Aug 2010
Diagnosed with MC (LC) Aug 2010
- Gabes-Apg
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DJ,
I am sceptical of a probiotic enema working, or providing any long term benefit.
Digestion starts from our mouth, if there is any bacteria from teeth/gums, then every time we eat or drink this goes into our gut. A probiotic enema can not help this.
If we are having histamine /trigger reactions to foods, the inflammation starts pretty early in the digestion process, again a probiotic enema can not help this.
Fixing the balance of our digestion system takes time, there is no quick fix.
How many treatments does the practitioner want you to do? How much will it cost?
Have they used this approach on other MC patients?? Keep in mind that MC is not the same as other IBD's.
From memory of my time on this forum, I don't recall anyone mentioning using probiotic enemas.
Hope this helps
I am sceptical of a probiotic enema working, or providing any long term benefit.
Digestion starts from our mouth, if there is any bacteria from teeth/gums, then every time we eat or drink this goes into our gut. A probiotic enema can not help this.
If we are having histamine /trigger reactions to foods, the inflammation starts pretty early in the digestion process, again a probiotic enema can not help this.
Fixing the balance of our digestion system takes time, there is no quick fix.
How many treatments does the practitioner want you to do? How much will it cost?
Have they used this approach on other MC patients?? Keep in mind that MC is not the same as other IBD's.
From memory of my time on this forum, I don't recall anyone mentioning using probiotic enemas.
Hope this helps
Gabes Ryan
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
Hi Naty and Gabes,
Having someone to run things by is so helpful. When a person wants so much to "fix" a problem that is not fully fixable, it can challenge one's common sense. Thanks for being here. And by the way, Hi Gabes! Did your move turn out well? I'm reaching a time where I am considering retirement. It really brings a lot of emotional confusion. I like to pre-plan everything and follow a predictable course of action, but life has repeatedly proven that things don't work that way!!! I'm an old dog in need of learning new tricks and it's not coming easily. I need to stop worry about the plight of the world and replace that worry with a campfire and marshmallows. My father was always on the move and had a difficult time transitioning to retirement and I'm just like him. Such a dilemma. Then comes the question of whether or not to escape the snow and replace it with hurricanes, sinkholes, landslides, fires, tornadoes, sweltering heat, and venomous critters. I'm looking for Utopia. Do you know the address?
Having someone to run things by is so helpful. When a person wants so much to "fix" a problem that is not fully fixable, it can challenge one's common sense. Thanks for being here. And by the way, Hi Gabes! Did your move turn out well? I'm reaching a time where I am considering retirement. It really brings a lot of emotional confusion. I like to pre-plan everything and follow a predictable course of action, but life has repeatedly proven that things don't work that way!!! I'm an old dog in need of learning new tricks and it's not coming easily. I need to stop worry about the plight of the world and replace that worry with a campfire and marshmallows. My father was always on the move and had a difficult time transitioning to retirement and I'm just like him. Such a dilemma. Then comes the question of whether or not to escape the snow and replace it with hurricanes, sinkholes, landslides, fires, tornadoes, sweltering heat, and venomous critters. I'm looking for Utopia. Do you know the address?
- Gabes-Apg
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The move has been a real blessing - thanks for asking....
I am surrounded by native birds, who with a bit of enticement with seed, are FANTASTIC photography models and I have captured some amazing shots - all within a few metres of my back door
non work days I start the day, sitting on my back verandah, in my jim jams, coffee, book and camera. Listen to the various bird calls (which at times sounds like an orchestra warming up with all the different tones and sounds)
I have probably taken about 1500 photos of various birds just sitting on the back verandah
some of the regular birds have names
there is Bud the grey butcher bird, who if i dont leave him a fresh meat treat, will sing for his supper
there is Bob, the satin bowerbird, who collects blue items for his bower... I leave him blue items and he takes them within 30 mins
there is Elvis, the King Parrot - if i dont put seed out he will sit by the container it is in and chirp. The other morning he tried to take my breakfast as I had not put seed out (i am pacing seed treats so they dont become reliant on it)
i have plans, and routines, albeit embracing the flow and listening to my body is the spine of my life...
I am surrounded by native birds, who with a bit of enticement with seed, are FANTASTIC photography models and I have captured some amazing shots - all within a few metres of my back door
non work days I start the day, sitting on my back verandah, in my jim jams, coffee, book and camera. Listen to the various bird calls (which at times sounds like an orchestra warming up with all the different tones and sounds)
I have probably taken about 1500 photos of various birds just sitting on the back verandah
some of the regular birds have names
there is Bud the grey butcher bird, who if i dont leave him a fresh meat treat, will sing for his supper
there is Bob, the satin bowerbird, who collects blue items for his bower... I leave him blue items and he takes them within 30 mins
there is Elvis, the King Parrot - if i dont put seed out he will sit by the container it is in and chirp. The other morning he tried to take my breakfast as I had not put seed out (i am pacing seed treats so they dont become reliant on it)
It took me over 2 years to break out of that cycle, I did lots of reading, audiobooks, podcasts, journals, etc etcIt really brings a lot of emotional confusion. I like to pre-plan everything and follow a predictable course of action, but life has repeatedly proven that things don't work that way!!!
i have plans, and routines, albeit embracing the flow and listening to my body is the spine of my life...
Gabes Ryan
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
Nice post Gabes. It all sounds beautiful. I think I might add your area as a new bucket list destination. We have several bird feeders in our back yard and my husband keeps them full. His birdfeeding routine is part of his relaxation. I have not conquered relaxation. I've heard of it but I don't entirely understand it We also have a big raised bed, 100% compost, organic garden in our back yard. In September, when we returned from a great trip to Northern CA, I was faced with about 200 ripe tomatoes. Of course, I felt compelled to cook many of them. I also had about 45 winter squash and enough kale to feed the planet for a hundred billion years. If anyone needs a cabbage the size of the moon, give me a call. Harvest time was quaint when I was younger and would be again if I was retired. I see that you work too. I find it difficult to keep it all going AND have health issues.
- Gabes-Apg
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to reach this calm, 'peace with what is' mode, I have had to let alot of things go per say. There was a grieving process for quite a few things. Even my work and career, I have made BIG changes over the past 5 years.I see that you work too. I find it difficult to keep it all going AND have health issues.
I spent a few years in the mode of that my body could not keep up with what my mind wanted to do, and this unsettled me.
All part of the process, and being at peace with what is.
Gabes Ryan
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama