Pale floaty stools since Christmas day

Jimbo1968 · Post by **Jimbo1968** » Mon Dec 28, 2015 4:55 am

Had my Christmas dinner a single southern comfort (first alcohol in 5 months), some gluten free Christmas cake and mince pies , about two hours later I had severe abdominal cramping with urgency . I had a one off large volume D, since that day I have had lots of wind and my stools are becoming lighter and lighter in colour and they are starting to float as well as well as rugged in appearance . Also on Christmas Day I increased my magnesium to 450mg, (it is only partly chelated) and kept it at this increased level . Also started taking Balance Rhodiola Complex (solgar) on Christmas Day. I don't know what to blame or how to interpret this change . Pale stools have always worried me (dull light brown / caramel colour)

Blueberry · Post by **Blueberry** » Mon Dec 28, 2015 8:59 am

Seeing white pale stools could be a possible sign that you are loosing your whiteness. To help determine this change, have you had an urge to play the base guitar? Have you discovered a new found love of rap music?

Sorry, being a bit silly of late, having felt better and energetic over the holiday. I experienced something similar when I took to much magnesium one time with my stools. To much fiber can cause similar, with the froth in particular. Alcohol is the worst for cramps for me. Tex or Gabes will likely provide better answers.

Post by **tex** » Mon Dec 28, 2015 10:11 am

That's a tough act to follow (as they say), but here are my thoughts:

Both alcohol and sugar are notorious for causing leaky gut if too much is consumed, and with MC, our reaction threshold is lowered significantly. I couldn't tolerate much sugar while I was recovering, and even today a big slice of GF cake (or pie) will cause me to have D (because of the sugar, not because of an MC reaction.)

Also, if you are taking "buffered" chelated magnesium, it's usually buffered by replacing up to half the chelated magnesium with cheap magnesium oxide. Magnesium oxide tends to cause D.

Tex

Jimbo1968 · Post by **Jimbo1968** » Mon Dec 28, 2015 10:36 am

I actually says it has magnesium oxide as binding agent on the label. I've ordered the Dr's Best as you recommended but thanks to Christmas delivery not going to get it to early new year. I wonder if it could be taking 3 of these magnesium tablets a day could be a contributing factor.
It seems as though all my good progress was almost lost in a day. As for gluten free mince pies they gone in the bin today and I only had one southern comfort. It's made me realise how delicate my predicament is when nothing excessive can throw the system in disarray.

Chemgirl · Post by **Chemgirl** » Mon Dec 28, 2015 10:37 am

Same thing happened to me. Holidays are usually bad since I get sloppy with my diet, eat foods that others have prepared, and get off of my normal routine.

Looks like it's time to get back to basics with safe foods and maybe backing off on any new supplements.

Goodluck! I'm sure you'll be back on track in no time.

Post by **tex** » Mon Dec 28, 2015 12:08 pm

Jim,

If you feel that you need the magnesium, you might try cutting back to 1 or 2 tablets until you can get the other brand you ordered.

The holidays are rough on MCers. I've become so disillusioned by people claiming that certain food items are safe to eat (when they're not) that this year I didn't eat a single thing away from home. (And I didn't have any digestive problems.)

Tex

Gabes-Apg · Post by **Gabes-Apg** » Mon Dec 28, 2015 12:20 pm

Tex
same - took my own meals with me.

Jim
The combo of the alcohol, sugar, lots of processed flours (although gluten free still an irritant to many), the dried fruit in the cake and pies (fibre and high histamine)

learnings:
most spirits use gluten based alcohol. When healed, many here can tolerate small amounts of Gluten Free alcohol -
down the track when things have improved, then maybe try a gluten free alcohol option. (and be cautious what you mix the alcohol with)

alcohol is highly inflammatory and the dried fruit in the cake/pies is high histamine, high fibre

The body may have been able to handle one - having the combo of 3-4 triggers will cause that level of reaction.

things like Xmas, new years, birthdays, etc are tough for MC'ers - there is no such thing as 'a little bit' in MC world. little bit or big bit it is very likely to cause a reaction.

For me, my gut doesnt react but my nervous system gets affected. a recent eating very small amount of normal food (gluten/dairy with some alcohol) and then having anesthetic for dental work and my nervous system went totally haywire, struggled to drive a car or do any task requiring coordination. it has taken me 2 weeks to recover.

re the Magnesium, it may be too much orally for you, especially while you are inflammed. cut back a bit and let thing settle.

Greengoddess · Post by **Greengoddess** » Mon Dec 28, 2015 1:01 pm

I sympathise. A week of mince pies, cake, parsnips with maple and too much salt and sugar has caused mayhem with me. Gabes has described it well!

HappyBird · Post by **HappyBird** » Thu Dec 31, 2015 11:50 am

I didn't realise sugar was so damaging but having said that I found it vey easy to go without.

For years before my flare I couldn't have tea or coffee without sugar and milk. It took no time at all to change to black coffee / tea with no sugar at all. We have a huge selection of booze at home but no one drinks it so its been given away bottle by bottle.

With tummy problems like we have there are two choices - make the changes and enjoy better health or live in misery.