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Magnesium and D3 Questions

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Hi,

I was surprised to see how different my body has reacted to supplementing with D3 and magnesium over the last 3 years.

I was diagnozed in 2010, and got no help untill 2013, when I started supplementing with D3 and magnesium:

Year Mag Vit D3
2013: 0,91 158
2016: 0,76 261

During 2015 I have been taking 5.000-10.000 i.u. vitamin D3 and magnesium mineral oil spray together with 400 mg magnesium glycinate tablets (chelated).

1) Does this mean that my body has absorbed the D3 better than the magnesium?

2) Or has the magnesium intake been to loow, since it has decreased? My last D3 level was too high, so my doctor has asked me to stop supplementing.

3) I was on Entocort for 5-6 months in 2015, so maybe that's the answer; Entocort depletes magnesium much more than it depletes vitamin D3?

PS: On April 24 I celebrated my 3 years' anniversary of being GF, DF, SF and partially Egg free :grin:

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Lilja,

I'm assuming that the magnesium test was a blood test, not a tissue test. Magnesium is stored in muscle cells. Blood tests for magnesium provide absolutely no information about actual magnesium reserves — they only show how much magnesium is in the blood when the blood sample is drawn.

Magnesium is an electrolyte, so the body is going to regulate the blood level of magnesium depending on actual needs at the moment. Magnesium is used for many purposes in the body, but one of the more important purposes is to regulate the calcium level in the blood and together with vitamin D, move the calcium to the bones where it can be stored.

This is just a guess, but maybe this process requires less magnesium in the blood when the vitamin D level is so high. But there could be many other reasons. The main point is that test result does not measure magnesium reserves — it only measures the amount of magnesium circulating in the blood at the moment the sample is drawn.

Happy anniversary!

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tex wrote:Lilja,

I'm assuming that the magnesium test was a blood test, not a tissue test. Magnesium is stored in muscle cells. Blood tests for magnesium provide absolutely no information about actual magnesium reserves — they only show how much magnesium is in the blood when the blood sample is drawn.

Magnesium is an electrolyte, so the body is going to regulate the blood level of magnesium depending on actual needs at the moment. Magnesium is used for many purposes in the body, but one of the more important purposes is to regulate the calcium level in the blood and together with vitamin D, move the calcium to the bones where it can be stored.

This is just a guess, but maybe this process requires less magnesium in the blood when the vitamin D level is so high. But there could be many other reasons. The main point is that test result does not measure magnesium reserves — it only measures the amount of magnesium circulating in the blood at the moment the sample is drawn.

Happy anniversary!

Tex
Tex, I already knew that magnesium blood test does'nt provide information about magnesium reserves... I guess I'm getting a bit senile here :oops:

But, thank you for your reply and the congratulations!

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Lilja,

That's not senility. Senility is one of my favorite hobbies these days so I'm slowly becoming an expert at it. It's sort of a senior version of a combination of the games "Treasure Hunt" and "Where's Wally?" (aka "Where's Waldo?", in the U. S.). Senility is going to the bathroom medicine cabinet to get a band-aid to put on a cut on your finger, but ending up staring into the refrigerator instead, trying to guess what you came to get. :lol:

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Post by Gabes-Apg »

the tough part of all this is that a blood test is 'one point in time' things can change over a week depending on stress, how much inflammation is in the body etc etc.

In the past 3 years you have changed your diet, supplement protocol, dealt with the bladder/urine issue etc etc etc
and various other changes. and given this you are not comparing apples with apples per say....
and without tissue sample tests, or results of the cell contents and health of your Vit D receptor - there is no scientific data to answer your question

listen to your body - it will tell you what it needs.
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Gabes wrote:the tough part of all this is that a blood test is 'one point in time' things can change over a week depending on
Yep, blood test results are just a snapshot valid for the moment. Actually, blood test results are almost constantly changing (usually slowly, of course). Remember that if you're in a hospital recovering from major surgery a nurse will come by to draw blood every 2 hours. There's a reason for the relatively short interval. And if you look at the results of all those tests you will see that many of the results are continually changing as time passes. Of course in that hospital setting most of the major changes are due to all the IV infusions, pills, injections, or whatever, but even when we are fully recovered and living a normal, stable life, test results will change. I'll bet that if you had a blood draw every day for a week, none of the results would be an exact match, let alone all of them being an exact match.

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