Another question about magnesium oil
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Another question about magnesium oil
I've been using diluted magnesium oil(50/50 with distilled water) for three months and it still stings. Granted I'm way past menopause and have thin skin. I also take 300 mg of mag glycinate orally daily and do a foot soak every evening. I figure I'm getting about 600 mg of magnesium a day. Another website indicated mag oil stings because of magnesium deficiency and when that deficiency is resolved it will no longer sting. Has anyone had that experience?
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That was my experience Christina, it only stings when I am low.
as you are diluting the magnesium oil, unless you are using it more than 8 times a day are you sure you are still getting 300mg elemental magnesium per day via the magnesium oil?
as you are diluting the magnesium oil, unless you are using it more than 8 times a day are you sure you are still getting 300mg elemental magnesium per day via the magnesium oil?
Gabes Ryan
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Oh, that's odd about the magnesium oil stinging only when you are low.
When I first started the mag oil, it stung, but it doesn't any more. I assumed I had just gotten used to it. I like this other explanation better; it will provide a warning if I get low on magnesium. (I use full strength mag oil from Ancient Minerals, and I have quite thin skin.)
When I first started the mag oil, it stung, but it doesn't any more. I assumed I had just gotten used to it. I like this other explanation better; it will provide a warning if I get low on magnesium. (I use full strength mag oil from Ancient Minerals, and I have quite thin skin.)
Martha
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Gabes -thanks for the reply. Here's my calculation:8 sprays per Ancient Minerals =100 mg of magnesium, diluted 16 sprays=100mg. I use 32sprays per day=200mg. I was thinking
I'd get maybe 100mg from the foot soak with mag chloride flakes every day but maybe that's just wishful thinking. So 300mg oral, 200 spray, 100 foot soak. From your experience
and Martha's I'm not getting enough magnesium or maybe I just haven't given it enough time to repair the deficiency.
Thanks again!
Martha-thanks for you input also!
Christina
I'd get maybe 100mg from the foot soak with mag chloride flakes every day but maybe that's just wishful thinking. So 300mg oral, 200 spray, 100 foot soak. From your experience
and Martha's I'm not getting enough magnesium or maybe I just haven't given it enough time to repair the deficiency.
Thanks again!
Martha-thanks for you input also!
Christina
Lotion
Hi....does anyone just use the lotion? If so how many times a day is enough? Are supplements also needed with the lotion? Any mag pills I ever used seem to give me D....are there any that don't? Thanks in advance....
Lou Ann
Lou Ann
You know, I also noticed that that the burning faded away, but l just assumed that maybe my skin happened to be more sensitive at times. I thought it was just a coincidence that it no longer burned.
Christina,
It does take a while to rebuild reserves. It took 2 or 3 months before I stopped noticing any stinging, and it took something like 6 to 8 months before all my magnesium deficiency symptoms completely resolved. Any excess magnesium in the blood that the body is not able to process and store in muscle cells is purged by the kidneys. According to my research it's vitamin B-6 that determines how much magnesium is absorbed into muscle cells for storage, so it may help to take a B-6 supplement. (I'm thinking that Gabes has mentioned that, also). MC tends to deplete the B vitamins because of malabsorption and D.
Most people are aware that insulin is responsible for regulating sugar entry into the cells but many are not aware that insulin is also necessary for storing magnesium in cells. Magnesium and insulin are co-dependent. A magnesium deficiency is associated with insulin resistance and a low magnesium level also compromises the ability of our pancreas to produce enough insulin.
But on the other side of the chart, insulin is required for facilitating the storage of magnesium in muscle cells. If we become insulin resistant or our ability to produce insulin is compromised, our ability to rebuild magnesium reserves is severely compromised. Instead, the extra magnesium is circulation will be purged by the kidneys, rather than stored in our cells. This is one of the reasons why diabetics are usually magnesium deficient. And it's also why a chronic magnesium deficiency can cause Type 2 diabetes.
Here's what that implies for us: Once we develop a serious magnesium deficiency, our ability to rebuild our reserves is severely compromised for a while because we probably have developed some insulin resistance or reduced insulin production. As proof of that I note that a severe magnesium deficiency can cause the same symptoms as diabetes (frequent, urgent urination and almost constant thirst). I had those symptoms when my magnesium deficiency got out of hand a year or so ago, so that's why it took a long time before I was able to begin rebuilding my reserves. I had to take enough magnesium long enough to get my insulin back to where it was working properly again before I was able to rebuild my magnesium reserves.
But despite those diabetes-associated symptoms, (when I obviously did not have diabetes) none of my doctors could figure out what was wrong with me.
Tex
Christina,
It does take a while to rebuild reserves. It took 2 or 3 months before I stopped noticing any stinging, and it took something like 6 to 8 months before all my magnesium deficiency symptoms completely resolved. Any excess magnesium in the blood that the body is not able to process and store in muscle cells is purged by the kidneys. According to my research it's vitamin B-6 that determines how much magnesium is absorbed into muscle cells for storage, so it may help to take a B-6 supplement. (I'm thinking that Gabes has mentioned that, also). MC tends to deplete the B vitamins because of malabsorption and D.
Most people are aware that insulin is responsible for regulating sugar entry into the cells but many are not aware that insulin is also necessary for storing magnesium in cells. Magnesium and insulin are co-dependent. A magnesium deficiency is associated with insulin resistance and a low magnesium level also compromises the ability of our pancreas to produce enough insulin.
But on the other side of the chart, insulin is required for facilitating the storage of magnesium in muscle cells. If we become insulin resistant or our ability to produce insulin is compromised, our ability to rebuild magnesium reserves is severely compromised. Instead, the extra magnesium is circulation will be purged by the kidneys, rather than stored in our cells. This is one of the reasons why diabetics are usually magnesium deficient. And it's also why a chronic magnesium deficiency can cause Type 2 diabetes.
Here's what that implies for us: Once we develop a serious magnesium deficiency, our ability to rebuild our reserves is severely compromised for a while because we probably have developed some insulin resistance or reduced insulin production. As proof of that I note that a severe magnesium deficiency can cause the same symptoms as diabetes (frequent, urgent urination and almost constant thirst). I had those symptoms when my magnesium deficiency got out of hand a year or so ago, so that's why it took a long time before I was able to begin rebuilding my reserves. I had to take enough magnesium long enough to get my insulin back to where it was working properly again before I was able to rebuild my magnesium reserves.
But despite those diabetes-associated symptoms, (when I obviously did not have diabetes) none of my doctors could figure out what was wrong with me.
Tex
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Christina
Further to Tex's reply..
Magnesium is also needed to clear toxins / excess metals - which can get worse when we have leaky gut.
one of the reasons people can feel worse when they start resolving the magnesium deficiency, is that the body is actually cleansing toxins.
It took me (with my combo of health issues ) at least 6 months to resolve the main magnesium deficiency (and I was doing 1000mg per day at the beginning) - 2 years later I continue to have higher need for magnesium - ie at least 600mg per day.
The 500-600mg that you are getting is a good start, it is very likely it will take at least 3 months to resolve the deficiency.. and if the deficiency is moderate it may take up to 6 months
LouAnn
Some use solely lotion - if they can get enough applications into their routine to get the optimal dose
Many use a combo of oral and lotion
products like this has been safe for most MC'ers
http://www.vitacost.com/doctors-best-hi ... -tablets-2
NB: for the 200mg of elemental magnesium it take 2 tablets.
and some have been ok with just oral
like alot of things in MC world, you have to do a bit of trial and error to figure out what works best for you..
Further to Tex's reply..
Magnesium is also needed to clear toxins / excess metals - which can get worse when we have leaky gut.
one of the reasons people can feel worse when they start resolving the magnesium deficiency, is that the body is actually cleansing toxins.
It took me (with my combo of health issues ) at least 6 months to resolve the main magnesium deficiency (and I was doing 1000mg per day at the beginning) - 2 years later I continue to have higher need for magnesium - ie at least 600mg per day.
The 500-600mg that you are getting is a good start, it is very likely it will take at least 3 months to resolve the deficiency.. and if the deficiency is moderate it may take up to 6 months
LouAnn
Some use solely lotion - if they can get enough applications into their routine to get the optimal dose
Many use a combo of oral and lotion
products like this has been safe for most MC'ers
http://www.vitacost.com/doctors-best-hi ... -tablets-2
NB: for the 200mg of elemental magnesium it take 2 tablets.
and some have been ok with just oral
like alot of things in MC world, you have to do a bit of trial and error to figure out what works best for you..
Gabes Ryan
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"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
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Thanks Tex! I learn something new about MC ever time I log on here :-) That's daily. I'm taking the B12 recommended here and about a month ago started the B complex also recommended here. I'm amazed when I stop and think how much my life has changed since diagnosis. Every positive action regarding the disease I've taken has come directly from what I've read here.
Gabes, so appreciate hearing your experiences, thank you!
Gabes, so appreciate hearing your experiences, thank you!