I am still battling gastritis. I am getting another endoscopy I suspect there is bacteria infection and it only feeds on amylopectin because my teeth start itching when i eat it and i get reflux and instant stomach pains as soon as amylopectin (not amylose) hit my stomach. I can eat regular table sugar, except syrups. Any form of overcooked starch,sugar destroys me.
I am living on vegetables and eggs and obviously losing weight. I suspect h pylori reinfection.
I want this to be the last endoscopy to have so does anyone know what kind of biopsies tests I should ask for besides H pylori? to rule out other stuff?
Thanks.
Endoscopy biopsies help...
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nsaidcolitis
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I would be surprised if anything new shows up in that endoscopy exam.
You have already defined your problem. You are allergic to amylopectin starch because of that it causes mast cell activation and histamine release, which causes the gastritis and other symptoms (itching is caused by a mast cell reaction that results in the release of histamine).
If I am correct, then you should be able to tolerate resistant starches (because they cannot be digested in the small intestine), and it sounds from your description as though that's the case. As you know, (but others reading this post may not be aware of) resistant starches are simply high-amylose starches.
Resistant starch:
But of course there's a reason for everything so I suppose it's possible that you may have an H. pylori infection. H. pylori can cause insulin resistance and amylopectin digestion results in increased insulin production which probably adds to the problem. Some researchers suspect an association between H. pylori and diabetes. And this is unrelated to that, but autoimmune gastritis is very common with Type 1 diabetes.
I would ask my doctor to request that the pathologist use a tryptase-based stain and do a mast cell count while he or she is examining those biopsy samples.
Good luck and please let us know if they find anything.
Tex
You have already defined your problem. You are allergic to amylopectin starch because of that it causes mast cell activation and histamine release, which causes the gastritis and other symptoms (itching is caused by a mast cell reaction that results in the release of histamine).
If I am correct, then you should be able to tolerate resistant starches (because they cannot be digested in the small intestine), and it sounds from your description as though that's the case. As you know, (but others reading this post may not be aware of) resistant starches are simply high-amylose starches.
Resistant starch:
But of course there's a reason for everything so I suppose it's possible that you may have an H. pylori infection. H. pylori can cause insulin resistance and amylopectin digestion results in increased insulin production which probably adds to the problem. Some researchers suspect an association between H. pylori and diabetes. And this is unrelated to that, but autoimmune gastritis is very common with Type 1 diabetes.
I would ask my doctor to request that the pathologist use a tryptase-based stain and do a mast cell count while he or she is examining those biopsy samples.
Good luck and please let us know if they find anything.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
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nsaidcolitis
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ty so much tex. I am symptom free if i consume amylose only, rice chex apparently is full of it so are boiled potatoes (not too long), some rice crackers (hard ones) too.
But this intolerance is the worst especially when you have gastritis and you cant eat protein/fat because of the acid. I would take an h2 blocker but they cause me insane reflux, still recovering from it (caused me to cough so much bringing a neumotorax)....and throat damage too.
I dont know if its safe to eat like this...chex cereal...vegetables...almond milk....and eggs...i can tolerate avocados with hard rice crackers too. Do you think my gastritis and enzymes will get better if i remain symptomless with this diet for a while?
Doctors prescribe PPI all over the place...but i would sacrifice my lung if i take em and my reflux when i stopped them. The last doctor only prescribed for 14 days which i thought was very responsible for him...i just dont tell them anything tired of convincing them it makes everything worse and might bring colitis back.
Ill try to get those biopsies studies but you say makes complete sense ! i really get inflamed with these foods grains gluten especially when overcooked.
edit: i actually bought a vegetable steamer and make sure they are not over cooked by steaming for 12 min tops , thats how bad this intolerance is lol.
But this intolerance is the worst especially when you have gastritis and you cant eat protein/fat because of the acid. I would take an h2 blocker but they cause me insane reflux, still recovering from it (caused me to cough so much bringing a neumotorax)....and throat damage too.
I dont know if its safe to eat like this...chex cereal...vegetables...almond milk....and eggs...i can tolerate avocados with hard rice crackers too. Do you think my gastritis and enzymes will get better if i remain symptomless with this diet for a while?
Doctors prescribe PPI all over the place...but i would sacrifice my lung if i take em and my reflux when i stopped them. The last doctor only prescribed for 14 days which i thought was very responsible for him...i just dont tell them anything tired of convincing them it makes everything worse and might bring colitis back.
Ill try to get those biopsies studies but you say makes complete sense ! i really get inflamed with these foods grains gluten especially when overcooked.
edit: i actually bought a vegetable steamer and make sure they are not over cooked by steaming for 12 min tops , thats how bad this intolerance is lol.
Sure. Stopping the reactions that promote inflammation should allow healing to occur. But the digestive system is typically very slow to heal, so it may take many months. Research shows that for celiac disease for example, it takes 3–5 years for the damage to the small intestine to completely heal. That's for adults. Kids heal much faster and kids usually heal in less than a year.nsaidcolitis wrote:Do you think my gastritis and enzymes will get better if i remain symptomless with this diet for a while?
The human body is very adaptable. We can learn to survive on almost any type of diet, if necessary.
You're very welcome,
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
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There was an article the other week that theorised that allergies and intolerances is actually because the body is overloaded with other toxins and not able to clear them properly
http://qz.com/689806/a-controversial-th ... urce=parFC
In my opinion, this has some credibility, my histamine reactions reduced big time, when i fixed methylation cycle and started to clear some of the excess heavy metals my body had...
i dont think it is the root cause of allergies and intolerance's, but it may well explain why some people have bad reactions and struggle to get them under control.
Since being part of forums about mould and biotoxins, i have made many changes to reduce the amount of toxins i am ingesting/having contact with..
these toxins deplete our key nutrients and put more strain on the immune system and impact the bodies ability to clear other toxins/metals. therefore impacting cell health. If you dont have healthy cells, you wont heal.
For people with ongoing chronic/near chronic issues, it is worth investigating and seeing if it applies. As you wont get better until you reduce toxin exposure.
http://qz.com/689806/a-controversial-th ... urce=parFC
Toxic chemicals have long threatened human health. Allergies would have protected our ancestors by flushing out these chemicals.
In my opinion, this has some credibility, my histamine reactions reduced big time, when i fixed methylation cycle and started to clear some of the excess heavy metals my body had...
i dont think it is the root cause of allergies and intolerance's, but it may well explain why some people have bad reactions and struggle to get them under control.
Since being part of forums about mould and biotoxins, i have made many changes to reduce the amount of toxins i am ingesting/having contact with..
these toxins deplete our key nutrients and put more strain on the immune system and impact the bodies ability to clear other toxins/metals. therefore impacting cell health. If you dont have healthy cells, you wont heal.
For people with ongoing chronic/near chronic issues, it is worth investigating and seeing if it applies. As you wont get better until you reduce toxin exposure.
Gabes Ryan
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nsaidcolitis
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Hi gabes thanks so much for that article. I do have intolerances to some ingredients and "toxins". For example i can't tolerate gums ! They delay and mess up my digestion and some almonds (raw) have preservatives it messes me up too. Ever since i've been experimenting with almond milk, i've noticed tons of things that are bad for me and I try to stay away frmo them !
It is amazing I have no symptoms with my intolerances removed. My LPR (caused by PPIs) gastritis are mostly gone if i wasnt aware of this because of you guys, I would be forever bound to PPIs . I hope i can avoid them (KNOCK HARD ON WOOD ). I read a few posts on gastritis forums of people who had h pylori they do have the same intolerances as me...mostly. It's weird i can tolerate regular sugar but not overcooked sugar/starch , they cant tolerate any starch/sugar but some simple sugars likes honey....it all doesnt make sense sometimes.
I really appreciate how you help a lot of people Gabes !
Thanks again.
It is amazing I have no symptoms with my intolerances removed. My LPR (caused by PPIs) gastritis are mostly gone if i wasnt aware of this because of you guys, I would be forever bound to PPIs . I hope i can avoid them (KNOCK HARD ON WOOD ). I read a few posts on gastritis forums of people who had h pylori they do have the same intolerances as me...mostly. It's weird i can tolerate regular sugar but not overcooked sugar/starch , they cant tolerate any starch/sugar but some simple sugars likes honey....it all doesnt make sense sometimes.
I really appreciate how you help a lot of people Gabes !
Thanks again.