It just occured to me as I was spraying on my magnesium that I had a strange result on my manometry/ph impedence test last year. It showed only borderline reflux, but a jackhammer/nutcracker esophagus and a very tight LES.
I keep forgetting about that because I assume that if I get burning in my chest/throat (from hyper acid PPI rebound) it must be because my LES is loose and rebound acid from the stomach is refluxing up into my throat. Or perhaps my LES became loose at a later date...the manometry was performed while still on the PPI.
I don't have any issues with swallowing food or regurgitation, though I do get some sternum pain lately which I think is still part of my PPI rebound (what a horrific drug).
Which raises a few questions:
1. Has anyone else reading this had a manometry and is it possible that because I was so super stressed, afraid, traumatized and freaked out by the awful procedure my results were not indicative of how my esophagus/LES are normally (I literally had to stop the procedure at one point because I was gagging and couldn't breath);
2. Do you think magnesium supplement is still helpful when the muscles (ie my esophagus and LES) are too tight rather than too loose (ie: does the magnesium help in both situations -- too tight and too loose muscles). I read that smooth muscle relaxants (such as nitrates and calcium channel blockers) can treat esophageal spastic disorders to reduce LES pressure and esophageal contraction amplitude. Do you think magnesium perhaps can serve as a smooth muscle relaxant too? I would love it if it would work for this as well.
Would love any input. The last thing I ever want to do is get that horrible test repeated.
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I did a bit of a google to do some reading to see if I could provide some input to your question
these are just my ponderings - I have not done enough reading to provide a scentific reason/response
magnesium is also key to help nerve system (which sends the message to the muscles) so yes i think Magnesium is still important
(as is other nutrients like Vit C, Zinc, etc)
from the couple of articles/blogs/discussions i saw there are a couple of contributions to these issues
- T1-T4 issues in the spine (interestingly these are my BIGGEST issues in my spine health and we are struggling to correct the issues) the impact on the nerves impacts LES etc.
posture eating position - there is discussion about children who are hunched in their posture and this has impacted the LES causing GERD. (thinking too much time hunched over a tablet etc)
I can not comment on integrity of the author but this blog/article explains some of what i read
http://livingwellfamilychiropractic.blo ... on-to.html
these are just my ponderings - I have not done enough reading to provide a scentific reason/response
magnesium is also key to help nerve system (which sends the message to the muscles) so yes i think Magnesium is still important
(as is other nutrients like Vit C, Zinc, etc)
from the couple of articles/blogs/discussions i saw there are a couple of contributions to these issues
- T1-T4 issues in the spine (interestingly these are my BIGGEST issues in my spine health and we are struggling to correct the issues) the impact on the nerves impacts LES etc.
posture eating position - there is discussion about children who are hunched in their posture and this has impacted the LES causing GERD. (thinking too much time hunched over a tablet etc)
I can not comment on integrity of the author but this blog/article explains some of what i read
http://livingwellfamilychiropractic.blo ... on-to.html
Gabes Ryan
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
Thanks. Just found this:
"Oesophagal spasm - Another condition which may respond well to magnesium is oesophagal spasm, which can give rise to pain anywhere from below the breastbone, right up to the throat. Typically a hiatus hernia may be suspected, but in a number of cases, pain just below the breastbone will be due to oesophagal spasm. You may remember that milk of magnesia (Magnesium hydroxide) used to used as a tonic for indigestion. It is the effect of magnesium on the smooth muscle surrounding the gastrointestinal tract that underpinned its use in this context."
and this:
"Magnesium relaxes arterial smooth muscle by decreasing intracellular Ca2+ without changing intracellular Mg2+."
So that's hopeful. :)
"Oesophagal spasm - Another condition which may respond well to magnesium is oesophagal spasm, which can give rise to pain anywhere from below the breastbone, right up to the throat. Typically a hiatus hernia may be suspected, but in a number of cases, pain just below the breastbone will be due to oesophagal spasm. You may remember that milk of magnesia (Magnesium hydroxide) used to used as a tonic for indigestion. It is the effect of magnesium on the smooth muscle surrounding the gastrointestinal tract that underpinned its use in this context."
and this:
"Magnesium relaxes arterial smooth muscle by decreasing intracellular Ca2+ without changing intracellular Mg2+."
So that's hopeful. :)
Suzy,
Magnesium deficiency can be deceiving because it causes muscle spasms. This can cause muscles to contract/clinch too tightly during spasms, but fail to respond adequately to normal functional needs, resulting in a weak response.
The stated results of the test you mentioned are classic signs of a magnesium deficiency (a jackhammer/nutcracker esophagus). That describes the effect of muscle spasms to a "T". Magnesium relaxes inappropriately tense muscles and strengthens them (so that they're stronger when they need to be), by eliminating malfunctions in the neurological control system.
This brings back memories of my early days with this disease when I posted about my guts sometimes "writhing like a snake". Looking back with 20-20 vision, that was obviously a symptom of magnesium deficiency.
Tex
Magnesium deficiency can be deceiving because it causes muscle spasms. This can cause muscles to contract/clinch too tightly during spasms, but fail to respond adequately to normal functional needs, resulting in a weak response.
The stated results of the test you mentioned are classic signs of a magnesium deficiency (a jackhammer/nutcracker esophagus). That describes the effect of muscle spasms to a "T". Magnesium relaxes inappropriately tense muscles and strengthens them (so that they're stronger when they need to be), by eliminating malfunctions in the neurological control system.
This brings back memories of my early days with this disease when I posted about my guts sometimes "writhing like a snake". Looking back with 20-20 vision, that was obviously a symptom of magnesium deficiency.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Yes it will. When my magnesium deficiency symptoms finally became so severe that I went to the ER and a serum magnesium test finally showed a flagged, below-range result, I was often waking up in the middle of the night with anxiety and almost panic attack-like symptoms that I couldn't understand. Doubling my magnesium supplement quickly stopped those symptoms. I now take half the thyroid treatment that I took for the 10 years prior to that, and my hypothyroid symptoms have finally faded away.
You're most welcome,
Tex
You're most welcome,
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
For several months I used 200 mg of magnesium citrate (because I had a bunch of it on hand) plus 300–400 mg of chelated magnesum (magnesium glycinate) scattered throughout the day, plus spray-on magnesium oil at night about 20 minutes before taking a shower. After about a year I dropped to 400–500 mg of oral magnesium, and I'm currently taking 300–400 mg of oral magnesium in split doses after meals. I consider this to be a reasonable maintenance dose now that I've rebuilt my reserves.
Tex
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
You're very welcome. Remember that this isn't necessarily the best program, or even a good one, for that matter — it's just the one that I've settled on because it seems to work well for me.
Tex
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.