Hi all, so I never did make it out of pajamas today. But I found hidden treasure in DEE'S KITCHEN! My goal was to get a shower, but I changed my goal to "copy and paste recipes to new file." YES! Crockpot apples, pumpkin bread and more! Tis the season! I call that a productive day!
Sadly I am low FODMAP and LOW RESIDUE. Low residue I hate you. Even FODMAP Salsa has tomato seeds so how am I supposed to enjoy tortilla chips? Fruits have skins and seeds so how am I supposed to get my system out of constipation mode? Fruit regulates me. I swear that piece of dark chocolate was not very big. Okay. Maybe a little bigger than small.
I'm getting tired of turkey and crackers or chicken and potatoes. Overcooked vegetables, no thank you. I want my spinach salad back! I want my mushrooms! And really, no olives?
I had no choice but to have a two of my own flourless peanut butter cookies. What good is sitting around in pajamas if you can't have a little dark chocolate and cookies? Seriously, I ate a good breakfast and lunch, but take away my salsa and chips in the afternoon, and I go junk food crazy. Well, that wasn't too crazy. I just better not spend tomorrow in pajamas!
NEWBIE discovered DEE'S KITCHEN!
Moderators: Rosie, Stanz, Jean, CAMary, moremuscle, JFR, Dee, xet, Peggy, Matthew, Gabes-Apg, grannyh, Gloria, Mars, starfire, Polly, Joefnh
If constipation is a problem, that should be adequate justification for eating some fruit (fiber). It's much better than taking a laxative. You may have to experiment with the dosage — you don't want to overdo it.
Chocolate is a good source of magnesium. Most people who crave chocolate are magnesium deficient.
Tex
Chocolate is a good source of magnesium. Most people who crave chocolate are magnesium deficient.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
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MamaBeabs
Magnesium and chocolate
Hi Tex, I just read from you magnesium right when you posted about the correlation between dark chocolate craving and low magnesium! I had better get some magnesium before I become a chocoholic.
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MamaBeabs
Tex I bought Magnesium Glycinate but gave me diarrhea
Or did something else give me diarrhea or did I begin having diarrhea because I had Microscopic Colitis and did not know it.
I have 350 capsules of 120 mg Magnesium (glycinate) by PURE encapsulations from Apple Wellness a reputable and expensive Brick and Morter. I started with 4 per day, had trouble, cut in half, then went to one. But as I said, I don't know my situation at the time, I was just constipated, as I am now for four to five days. It's giving me a massive headache. How should I proceed? Thank you.
I have 350 capsules of 120 mg Magnesium (glycinate) by PURE encapsulations from Apple Wellness a reputable and expensive Brick and Morter. I started with 4 per day, had trouble, cut in half, then went to one. But as I said, I don't know my situation at the time, I was just constipated, as I am now for four to five days. It's giving me a massive headache. How should I proceed? Thank you.
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MamaBeabs
I am going to have strawberries with dinner, but my husband peels them because I am low residue and he worries about the seeds. Melon is not helpful. I tried a quote. Hope it worked!tex wrote:If constipation is a problem, that should be adequate justification for eating some fruit (fiber). It's much better than taking a laxative. You may have to experiment with the dosage — you don't want to overdo it.
Chocolate is a good source of magnesium. Most people who crave chocolate are magnesium deficient.
Tex
First be sure you've stepped down the budesonide dose to the next level. Drink plenty water. Add some fruit if you can (cooked pears, peaches — prunes if you want to maximize the effect). Taking at least several hundred mg of magnesium citrate instead of magnesium glycinate will help add a mild laxative effect.
Maybe someone else will have some better ideas. We're more oriented to offering suggestions for controlling diarrhea around here — but constipation can be just as bad a problem.
Tex
Maybe someone else will have some better ideas. We're more oriented to offering suggestions for controlling diarrhea around here — but constipation can be just as bad a problem.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
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Gabes-Apg
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Gabes constipation advice:
Increase water intake.
Increase safe oil intake. Ie coconut oil, bone broth in soups etc.
gently fibre ie cooked fruit, peeled apple,
Magnesium, with intake spread over the day.
Relaxation and good sleep.
Keep in mind the strawberries you had today, it may take 48hrs or more to see improvements, don't rush to increase fibre intake. As this bulks the stool and can make it harder to pass.
Increasing water intake and oil intake and magnesium are safer long term solutions that are minimal risk to cause Mc reactions. Fruit (even peeled fruit) the combo of sugar and risk of fermenting can irritate MC'ers.
To protect skin and minimise risk of haemorrhoids, using come coconut oil on skin in this region can provide protection.
Increase water intake.
Increase safe oil intake. Ie coconut oil, bone broth in soups etc.
gently fibre ie cooked fruit, peeled apple,
Magnesium, with intake spread over the day.
Relaxation and good sleep.
Keep in mind the strawberries you had today, it may take 48hrs or more to see improvements, don't rush to increase fibre intake. As this bulks the stool and can make it harder to pass.
Increasing water intake and oil intake and magnesium are safer long term solutions that are minimal risk to cause Mc reactions. Fruit (even peeled fruit) the combo of sugar and risk of fermenting can irritate MC'ers.
To protect skin and minimise risk of haemorrhoids, using come coconut oil on skin in this region can provide protection.
Gabes Ryan
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
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MamaBeabs
Constipation
Thanks for the advice. Wouldn't it be nice if I could digest that fruit immediately and be rid of the constipation. I had said before that I finally got a face to face with my doctor. That actually went well since I was armed with info after studying this site. She agreed I should try some fruit. I have been wanting to make some of the crockpot apple or pear recipes I found in Dee's kitchen so while I wait for those strawberries to digest I am taking Gabes advice, cooking up some fruit. Just wondering is there a verdict out on a little cinnamon or some safe October-ish spices? I used to use whole cloves, and cinnamon sticks. Is that okay?
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Gabes-Apg
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Go slow with spices/flavours etc. spices are inflammatory to the gut.
Also double check spices etc some mass produced package ones can contain gluten /soy and other fillers.
We do encourage keep things as bland/plain as possible at first and then very slowly and gradually add other ingredients /flavours.
If you make Apple with cinnamon and do react, there is no way to know was If it was the Apple or the cinnamon.
Also double check spices etc some mass produced package ones can contain gluten /soy and other fillers.
We do encourage keep things as bland/plain as possible at first and then very slowly and gradually add other ingredients /flavours.
If you make Apple with cinnamon and do react, there is no way to know was If it was the Apple or the cinnamon.
Gabes Ryan
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
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MamaBeabs
Apple cooking spices
Good point Gabes. I wouldn't know if it were apples or spices that threw me off course. It's been a year since I've made anything like that. Is it the same if you are using the flavoring from whole cloves and cinnamon sticks as with spices? I also always make apple cider this time of year but maybe I should find something new to make.
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Gabes-Apg
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Depends on how much you plan to consume.
In the early stages of healing we strongly encourage avoiding fruit, fruit juices etc. the sugar and other aspects of fruits are inflammatory to MC.
So far as whole cloves and cinnamon. Everyone is different. Me personally I couldn't do any spices including cinnamon for the first 2 years. Others can have small amounts after 9-12 months. There is no fixed black and white guideline that works for all.
I know with thanksgiving and Christmas coming up embracing the suggestions seems out there.
Part of the acceptance of life with MC is reduced focus on food and drink at major events.
And sadly for some, a trigger ingredient is a trigger ingredient, whether you have a teaspoon or a huge helping, it will cause major symptoms. (And delay healing)
Is Apple cider a fermented type drink? (Being from Australia I am not familiar with it). Fermented foods and drinks are high risk to be high histamine and this is a major trigger for most MC'ers.
In the early stages of healing we strongly encourage avoiding fruit, fruit juices etc. the sugar and other aspects of fruits are inflammatory to MC.
So far as whole cloves and cinnamon. Everyone is different. Me personally I couldn't do any spices including cinnamon for the first 2 years. Others can have small amounts after 9-12 months. There is no fixed black and white guideline that works for all.
I know with thanksgiving and Christmas coming up embracing the suggestions seems out there.
Part of the acceptance of life with MC is reduced focus on food and drink at major events.
And sadly for some, a trigger ingredient is a trigger ingredient, whether you have a teaspoon or a huge helping, it will cause major symptoms. (And delay healing)
Is Apple cider a fermented type drink? (Being from Australia I am not familiar with it). Fermented foods and drinks are high risk to be high histamine and this is a major trigger for most MC'ers.
Gabes Ryan
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
Gabes,
I realize the stage 1 diet frowns on fruit. I wouldn't have suggested fruit if she wasn't trying to treat constipation. Constipation requires a different diet (even if it's temporary) than diarrhea-predominant MC. Doesn't it?
Tex
I realize the stage 1 diet frowns on fruit. I wouldn't have suggested fruit if she wasn't trying to treat constipation. Constipation requires a different diet (even if it's temporary) than diarrhea-predominant MC. Doesn't it?
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
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Gabes-Apg
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Constipation wise I would favour vegetables over fruit
Also why I recommend water, oil and magnesium before fruit.
Excess Sugar and ferments /histamine are still inflammatory regardless of if you have C or D.
A quick google and looking at recipes for Apple cider, the orange juice is not ideal in early stages of healing.
Also why I recommend water, oil and magnesium before fruit.
Excess Sugar and ferments /histamine are still inflammatory regardless of if you have C or D.
A quick google and looking at recipes for Apple cider, the orange juice is not ideal in early stages of healing.
Gabes Ryan
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
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MamaBeabs
Constipation and Fruit
Hi Tex and Gabe, I have had a history of alternating C/D IBS. I think it comes down to something Gabes mentioned that if you eat fruit to help with constipation, realize it takes time before it helps. Otherwise there is a risk in eating more fruit than they GI system needs and C can swing to D rather quickly. I have an early indicator which is heartburn. If I get heartburn I know I have consumed something I shouldn't or too much of something that might have been okay in a small amount. For some reason I was thinking fermented would be better for MS, maybe since I thought making homemade fermented sourdough GF bread was fine for IBS. For me, and probably others, so much that is challenging is cultural here in Wisconsin. Hefty breads, aged cheeses, sausage, seasonal holiday (wintery) meals, and beers abound. Though I would also be tempted in Texas due to my former addiction of Nachos and salsa!
FWIW, my symptoms alternated between C & D back when I was initially reacting. There didn't seem to be any way to significantly change the pattern, so I didn't try and just concentrated on refining my diet until I was able to reach remission. There have been several other members who had a similar pattern, so apparently it's a legitimate (but uncommon) mode of reaction for MC patients.
Tex
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.