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EnteroLab Results-need help please

Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2019 12:02 pm
by Booker
EnteroLab Results I received over the weekend
I just started with Symptoms in March and was diagnosed with MC/CC in July so to see reactions below so soon makes me thankful I am lucky to have good health insurance and doctors that took the time to do a biopsy of my otherwise good looking colin haha.

Anti-gliadin IgA 211 Units (Normal Range is less than 10 Units)
Anti-Oat IgA 114 Units (Normal Range is less than 10 Units)
Anti-tissue Transglutaminase IgA 127 Units (Normal Range is less than 10 Units)
Anti-Saccharomyces cerevisiae (dietary yeast) IgA 15 Units (Normal Range is less than 10 Units)
Mean Value 11 Antigenic Foods 105 Units (Normal Range is less than 10 Units)
Results
Nothing came back with 0 or 1+
2+
Rice, Cashew, Walnut
3+
Corn, almond, White Potato, Milk, Egg, Soy, Garbonzo Bean, Sesame Seed
As if avoiding Gluten was not hard enough I have All of the above added.
Sooooo What CAN I eat? Also with so many reactions, should I do the meat test?
I have only had symptoms since March and diagnosed with MC/CC beginning of July. At that point, I cut out Gluten, Dairy, Soy and later cut out Oat, peanut and Yeast. With these results, it looks like I have more to cut out. I have not eaten fruits except banana. The two vegetables I eat are squash and sweet potato. I make bone broth, but I really need other ideas of what I can actually eat.
OH and to top all that, I am allergic to Shell-Fish ( I carry epi-pen) and certain fruits in the raw form. Apples, peaches, pears, cherries, plums, kiwi. However, I can eat any of these fruits with no reactions in the cooked form. That was before I learned I have CC.
I don’t know what vegetables are considered safe to eat in cooked form. Are there any fruits besides Bananas?

Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2019 2:37 pm
by tex
Yep, those are pretty harsh results. They're somewhat worse than the average for most of us, indicating a rather severe sensitivity level. But it may simply indicate that you've been reacting for a while. Whether or not you do the meat test is up to you, but if you do, I'm going to guess that the results will be mostly (or all) positive.

Fruits are not a good option for MC'ers anyway, because they're all high in fructose content (which is especially difficult to digest), and many contain sorbitol (which is totally indigestible). Undigested (or partially-digested) sugars are fermented in the colon by bacteria, causing gas, bloating, cramps, diarrhea, etc. Bananas are usually OK in moderation. If you can eat squash and sweet potatoes, that should be plenty vegetables for a recovery diet.

There are a lot of options for safe meat choices. Turkey is safe for most of us (I've only heard of one member who claimed to react to it). No one reacts to lamb, venison, duck, pheasant, quail, rabbit, antelope, emu, alligator, etc., or any other wild type meats. Except for bison. Virtually all bison contain domestic beef cattle DNA these days, so those of us who react to beef will usually react to bison. Water buffalo though, should be safe, as are equines, llamas, camels, etc. Fatty meat is better than lean meat, as it allows us to take in more (safe) calories.

I hope this helps.

Tex

Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2019 2:50 pm
by Booker
Tex,
that info is super helpful. One question about the meats when you say you think the results will all be positive that's a Good thing right?? As in I shouldn't be reacting to meats?? I just wanted to make sure before I jump over a cliff. If beef is the only one "some people" react to then I can figure that one out on my own without a test.
About the high fat. That is opposite of what I thought. Or maybe what I was originally told. I was under the impression us "MC'ers" had to stick to a low fiber low fat diet. If I can have a Ribeye over a filet, that makes me happy :grin:

Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:36 pm
by tex
Hi,

No, when we say a test result is positive, we mean positive for antibody detection. Antibodies trigger reactions. A good thing would be a negative test result, because that would mean negative for antibodies. I'm just guessing there, based on the fact that virtually all of your test results were positive. Quite a few of us test positive for various common meats (meaning that we have to avoid beef, or pork, or chicken, etc.), but no one tests positive for wild type meats.

Not everyone gets diarrhea. For example, I don't get diarrhea if I eat beef (some of us may). Instead, I get gas, bloating, and a backache. The next day I have a headache. Pork is fine for me, so I eat pork — no beef.

Regarding fat, the medical profession has been wrong about fat for many decades. A lot of recently-published research shows that eating animal fat does not make people fat — the culprit is eating carbs, especially grains. Humans evolved eating animal fat. So why would it be unhealthy? You might not be able to digest large amounts of fat early on in your recovery, but as the inflammation decreases, you should be able to handle increasing larger amounts. Animal fats are a much better source of energy and a healthier way to gain weight than carbohydrates. Carbs tend to go straight to unhealthy body fat, whereas animal fats are more likely to be burned as energy.

Tex

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 12:51 pm
by Booker
TEX!!! That's not the news I wanted :mad:
However it does answer my question in that I should go ahead and get my meats tested. Your insight is highly valued. I want to cut out EVERYTHING that is making me sick so I can not do anymore damage to my body and heal. I want to live a normal life even if it means not eating normal. I will find a new normal and figure it out. I'm trying hard to get past the feeling sorry for myself and just focus on the fact that I'm lucky to know whats wrong and have the ability to figure out the majority of triggers so I can get better. I have 4 boys and I'm worried about one in particular who will end up with issues with gluten etc.
The symptoms this disease produces is just not something I want to have to deal with on a daily basis. So I will eat and do whatever it takes.
I think it may be worth paying for a consultation with Enterolab and see what they recommend from here as far as testing.

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 1:01 pm
by tex
With your positive attitude, you'll do OK. We all have to go through that stage, and you seem to be handling it better than most of us. It gets easier as you go, even though it can be a mighty long road to recovery.

Tex