Does drinking Red Wine or Champagne give you a head ache?

[mle_ii]

Ok, after reading something I'm curious.

Does drinking Red Wine or Champagne cause sneezing, flush, headache, diarrhea, skin itch, or shortness of breath?

[jenilake]

Hi Mike,

Drinking all wine gives me migraines, lately. I can drink a little, but if I drink it several days in a row I get a migraine for several days after.

I am sure that I reach a threshold, and then I get the headache.

I do consider it an allergic reaction, b/c I have also had the itchy skin from it.

Kathyp

[barbaranoela]

Hi Mike---

Just a few sips I immediatly get a headache----so thats why I dont indulge anymore~~~~

Nothing else---just a pounding head-ache~~

Barbara

[mle_ii]

Interesting. Before I say more about what I found I'd like to see more poll results. :)

[Peggy]

You didn't specify how much wine or champagne

[Sally]

Yeah, Peg. Just what I was going to say! You always get there first!!!!

Love,

Auntie Sal

[starfire]

Well, it doesn't take very much for me to get a headache.
Margarittas, on the other hand, don't give me a headache (at least not in moderation).

Love, Shirley

[annie oakley]

Me either....After about 2 glasses and I mean moderate glasses, iy's headache time, Love Oma

[tex]

I really don't know. I haven't drunk any in at least 25 or 30 years, because it gave me a headache.

When I was a teenager, I could drink a little homemade wine, and it would relieve my asthma atacks, but when I reached my 20s, I was no longer bothered by asthma, and wine started giving me headaches. I have no idea what it would now.

Tex

[artteacher]

Hi Mike,

White wine is the worst - headache about 8 hours later, and 30 hours later D, depending how much I drank. (4 oz seems to be the threshhold for headaches, 6-8 for D.)

Love, Marsha

P.S. white wines are high in sulfites; red wines have sulfites and another substance (anyone remember what it's called?) that causes headaches. You can tell which substance you're more sensitive to by which type of wine you react to more.
Sulfites are naturally in grapes, used as a fungicide in the field, as an additive during fermentation to supress the bad bacteria without harming the good, & as a wash for the barrels. Apparently the only way to eliminate sulfites completely is to drink mead (wine made from honey) that is labeled sulfite-free. They can have immediate throat-closing effects, or time-delayed headaches, rashes, etc. Most people are fine with large amounts of sulfites, (because sulfur is a naturally occuring substance - even a necessary one). Some people are extrememly sensitive, others have a tolerence level somewhere on a sliding scale.

[Tessa]

I haven't drunk any in at least 20 years, because it gave me a headache, nausea, vomits, etc.

In fact, I have never been able to drink any alcohol because of it making me feel sick.

(I never thought this could be related with our "problems")
Wauw!



I am with you, Marsha, white alcohol was the worst. Just by drinking 1 single glass, I started feeling sick... for 48 hours, nausea, vomits, headache, weakness, etc....

[artteacher]

Hey guys,

I couldn't remember what was in red wine, because it's more than one thing that could cause a reaction - histamines, tannin, or just the variety of wine (because some red wines might cause a headache while another varietal wine may not). But while I was browsing . . . I thought it was really interesting.

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/ ... i_18475212

See ya,

Marsha

[mle_ii]

Hey guys,

I couldn't remember what was in red wine, because it's more than one thing that could cause a reaction - histamines, tannin, or just the variety of wine (because some red wines might cause a headache while another varietal wine may not). But while I was browsing . . . I thought it was really interesting.

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/ ... i_18475212

See ya,

Marsha

Cheater, you weren't supposed to peek. ;) LOL

Anyway here's the line of thought I had.

I was reading DogtorJ's article about pain, and he started to talk about MSGs and migrains. This got me thinking about my red wine / champagne related head aches. I ended up finding this article.

http://tinyurl.com/khsss

Ok, I started wondering where Diamine oxidase was created or what it was and I found this...
http://www.annclinlabsci.org/cgi/conten ... t/22/3/155

Hmmm... produced in the gastrointestinal mucosal cells... And what area is damaged in our bodies when ingesting gluten. A ha!

Well, well well, look what else I found:

http://tinyurl.com/kk539

More food for thought. :)

Thanks,
Mike

[tex]

Mike,

I'm guessing that the first link you have listed is not what you intended.

Tex

[harvest_table]

I couldn't remember what was in red wine, because it's more than one thing that could cause a reaction - histamines, tannin, or just the variety of wine (because some red wines might cause a headache while another varietal wine may not). But while I was browsing . . . I thought it was really interesting.

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/ ... i_18475212

Here's a quote from Marsha's link Keep in mind we all have very high nitric oxide levels....something like 100 times a normal person


Histamine intolerance occurs in people who have an impaired ability to degrade histamine because of reduced activity or a complete lack of the enzyme diamine oxidase. This enzyme, which is located in the jejunal mucosa, plays a clinical role in the normal metabolism of histamine.

In experimental models, headaches have been induced by infusion of histamine as well as by ingestion of red vane. Histamine-induced headache is a vascular headache, and nitric oxide probably plays a role in its causation.

Yes, this is an interesting stuff to ponder....Gosh, I miss a nice glass of Merlot now and then.

Our bodies are really goofed up huh? LOL

Love,
Joanna