Hi All,
I thought you might be interested in this. Currently, there is no cloned meat in the market, (at least not in the United States, anyway). Scott Simplot, (chairman of the J. R.Simplot Company), plans to change that, before the end of this year. I don't know whether this is good or bad, but it appears to be virtually a done deal.
http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnf ... _top+story
Tex
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Hi Tex,
Extremely interesting article and I really don't know where I stand on the issues either as to good or bad. Just because something is cloned I don't think it will necessarily make it bad for one's health. From an ethical standpoint, it teeters on the edge of bizarre and where does it go from there.
I do know Norway is working on cloning some fish for market so I guess it is the coming thing. God Bless Progress.
Love, Maggie
Extremely interesting article and I really don't know where I stand on the issues either as to good or bad. Just because something is cloned I don't think it will necessarily make it bad for one's health. From an ethical standpoint, it teeters on the edge of bizarre and where does it go from there.
I do know Norway is working on cloning some fish for market so I guess it is the coming thing. God Bless Progress.
Love, Maggie
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Hmmmmmmm, I don't know how I feel about this idea......cloned anything kind of makes me shiver. Where does it stop? Next you'll be seeing yourself walking down the street.............. 
Believe me, you don't need any Margie mini-me's!
Seriously, I think I enjoy reading too many horror stories to truly understand where I stand on this. I keep reverting back to "I once read a story that said...............: hahahahaha
Love,
The One and Only..............Ta Da.............
MARS
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me up! (Haven't used that one in a while!)
Believe me, you don't need any Margie mini-me's!
Seriously, I think I enjoy reading too many horror stories to truly understand where I stand on this. I keep reverting back to "I once read a story that said...............: hahahahahaLove,
The One and Only..............Ta Da.............
MARS
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me up! (Haven't used that one in a while!)"Let us rise up and be thankful, for if we didn't learn a lot today, at least we learned a little, and if we didn't learn a little, at least we didn't get sick, and if we got sick, at least we didn't die; so, let us all be thankful." -- Buddha
Polly,
I was hoping that no one would ask me that. LOL. Since you asked, here's my two cents worth.
In theory, both these concepts should solve a lot of problems, and allow us to have even more abundant, safer, and cheaper food. What bothers me about it is the fact that "tinkerers" can never leave well enough, alone, as both Maggie and Mars have already pointed out. When you consider all the "junk" available in the grocery stores already, imagine what will happen in the long run, as "innovators" take bolder and bolder steps in genetic manipulation, in order to entice people to spend their grocery money on "new and better" products, offered with special "benefits".
Hopefully, government regulators will slow down the process somewhat, and bring some degree of order to it, but we know from experience that anytime most manufacturers promote a new item, it's not really aimed at improving our health, (thought it's always hyped as "healthy"), it is always aimed at improving the manufacturers bottom line.
I suspect that within a few years, we will be seeing some interesting changes in new food products. I guess it's all part of natural evolution, even though it seems so unnatural on the surface.
I hope I managed to "dance around" the issue well enough that you don't notice that I didn't really answer your question. LOL. This is a pretty complex issue. What are your thoughts?
Love,
Tex
P S Deep down, I'm pretty old-fashioned at heart, and while I embrace technology, and love to use it, I'm quite content with eating the same types of food that my grandparents and great-grandparents ate. Growing up on a farm, most of the food that I have always eaten, was made from "scratch", and still is - not necessarily paleolithic, but not much more modern than neolithic, really. IOW, I probably won't be actively seeking any cloned beef, for my own use, and won't be raising it, either.
I was hoping that no one would ask me that. LOL. Since you asked, here's my two cents worth.
In theory, both these concepts should solve a lot of problems, and allow us to have even more abundant, safer, and cheaper food. What bothers me about it is the fact that "tinkerers" can never leave well enough, alone, as both Maggie and Mars have already pointed out. When you consider all the "junk" available in the grocery stores already, imagine what will happen in the long run, as "innovators" take bolder and bolder steps in genetic manipulation, in order to entice people to spend their grocery money on "new and better" products, offered with special "benefits".
Hopefully, government regulators will slow down the process somewhat, and bring some degree of order to it, but we know from experience that anytime most manufacturers promote a new item, it's not really aimed at improving our health, (thought it's always hyped as "healthy"), it is always aimed at improving the manufacturers bottom line.
I suspect that within a few years, we will be seeing some interesting changes in new food products. I guess it's all part of natural evolution, even though it seems so unnatural on the surface.
I hope I managed to "dance around" the issue well enough that you don't notice that I didn't really answer your question. LOL. This is a pretty complex issue. What are your thoughts?
Love,
Tex
P S Deep down, I'm pretty old-fashioned at heart, and while I embrace technology, and love to use it, I'm quite content with eating the same types of food that my grandparents and great-grandparents ate. Growing up on a farm, most of the food that I have always eaten, was made from "scratch", and still is - not necessarily paleolithic, but not much more modern than neolithic, really. IOW, I probably won't be actively seeking any cloned beef, for my own use, and won't be raising it, either.
I pretty much agree with what Tex said. I don't know if it's good or bad right now but someone will take it too far and I really don't want to eat it.
However, since nobody asked me nor will they even tell me which is which, I know I will be ingesting the stuff.
Love, Shirley
However, since nobody asked me nor will they even tell me which is which, I know I will be ingesting the stuff.
Love, Shirley
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Interesting thoughts, Shirley and Tex.
I think I am more concerned about GM foods. What if someone starts slipping a "wheat" gene into something that I know I can safely eat, like an apple? This kind of rampant practice would play havoc with our diets - how would we ever truly know what we are eating and what we might react to? It seems like a scary step backward from all of these recent, stringent labelling laws. And how about the folks with life-threatening, anaphylactic reactions? Putting a peanut or seafood gene into another food could be fatal for them.
My main concern about cloning is that we don't know the impact after many generations. Did I read somewhere that the cloned animal doesn't seem to live as long as the original animal? Do we really know enough about the health/nutritional value of later generations? And I think I read that cloned animals will not have to state it on the label. Is this true?
I guess, if you really want to play it safe, it will be necessary to buy only from organic, non-GMO farms and those that raise range-fed animals. Or buy from stores, like Whole Foods, that claim not to carry any GMO foods.
Love,
Polly
I think I am more concerned about GM foods. What if someone starts slipping a "wheat" gene into something that I know I can safely eat, like an apple? This kind of rampant practice would play havoc with our diets - how would we ever truly know what we are eating and what we might react to? It seems like a scary step backward from all of these recent, stringent labelling laws. And how about the folks with life-threatening, anaphylactic reactions? Putting a peanut or seafood gene into another food could be fatal for them.
My main concern about cloning is that we don't know the impact after many generations. Did I read somewhere that the cloned animal doesn't seem to live as long as the original animal? Do we really know enough about the health/nutritional value of later generations? And I think I read that cloned animals will not have to state it on the label. Is this true?
I guess, if you really want to play it safe, it will be necessary to buy only from organic, non-GMO farms and those that raise range-fed animals. Or buy from stores, like Whole Foods, that claim not to carry any GMO foods.
Love,
Polly
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