My GI Visit - boswellia and more on vitamin D

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My GI Visit - boswellia and more on vitamin D

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Hi Good Buddies!

I read Gloria's post about her GI visit with interest. It sounds as if she is doing a good job educating him! I wanted to report on my GI visit yesterday.

I had made the appt. several mos. ago when I was having some D. Turns out the D disappeared after eliminating eggs, but I kept the appt. to see if anything is new on the MC front. I love my doc - she is interested in learning from her patients and very open-minded. We spent over one hour just talking.

She told me that some believe that boswellia (an extract from a tree) may help IBD (inflammatory bowel disease). In fact, she has at least one patient (with Crohn's I believe) where this is the case. I noticed that Beverly mentioned boswellia in her post yesterday. Does anyone here know any more about it?

Also, my doc said that it is now thought that taking adequate doses of vitamin D can prevent the formation of polyps in the colon. These are what often lead to cancer, I believe, so this is really important. Another benefit of that amazing vitamin!

I was on an every-5-year colonoscopy schedule, but she wants me to have my next one in Jan., after only 3 years. Mainly because I had polyps removed on my first 2 colonoscopies and the fact that my dad died from colon cancer. If I take my vitamin D religiously, perhaps I won't develop any more polyps. Anyway, I will not look forward to the cleanout with swamp water (Nulytely), that's for sure.

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Polly,

Wow! Great find! This is Indian frankincense, an ancient herb long used in ayurvedic medicine. Apparently it produces the therapeutic effects of NSAID's, without any of the nasty side effects.

For anyone interested, here's what seems to be a good straightforward discussion of what it is, and how it works, in layman's terms:

http://www.suite101.com/blog/daisyelain ... flammation

Here is Sloan-Kettering's discussion on the substance, and it's therapeutic effects, for a slightly more technical presentation. This also includes a summary of results of a small study where patients with chronic colitis were treated:

http://www.mskcc.org/mskcc/html/69149.cfm

It doesn't say, (unless I overlooked it), but I would presume that these patients had UC. You can read an abstract of the study here:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1148 ... t=Citation

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Turns out the D disappeared after eliminating eggs
Polly, that's pretty amazing! I think it shows that we're always learning about our intolerances. I've been hoping that I can eventually add eggs back into my diet, at least in baking, but maybe not. Keep us posted about any food you've been able to add back now that you're not eating eggs.

Your GI sounds great. I'm going to read Tex's links later.

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Question: :help:

If I am taking Citracal for a calcium supplement, is there enough Vita D in that or should I take an extra Vita D tablet in addition to the Citracal?

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Tex,

Maybe boswellia would be useful for MCers with pain who don't want to use NSAIDs. It's hard to find good painkillers, and some find little relief with Tylenol (like me).

Babsey,

I would recommend at least 1000 I.U.s total per day from all of your vitamin D supplements. Even better is 2000 per day. I am taking 3000 units per day.

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Babsey,

If you're using Citracal® Caplets + D, or Citracal® 250 mg + D, you're getting 400 IU of vitamin D with each "serving". That's the old recommendation for RDA. As Polly suggests, we need much more. Residents of higher latitudes, (such as yourself), may need even higher dosages, to counteract the effects of less sunlight, particularly during the winter months.

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So you are saying that I should just get plain Vita D supplements and take those along with the 6 Citracal 250 + D's that I take daily to equal 2,000 or 3,000 IU's?
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Babsey,

Yes

Polly,

I'm sure you're right, and according to the articles, it should be beneficial for virtually any and all autoimmune issues, including both osteoarthritis and rheumatoid arthritis. It's even been shown to be beneficial for issues such as asthma. I'm going to check it out, the next time I get to a HFS.

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Babsey,
I take 2 Citracal - equals 600mgs of calcium + 500 IU's of D, and add one 1,000 IU's of vitamin D, twice a day giving me the required amount of 1,200mgs a day of calcium and 3,000 IU's of vitamin D.


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Thanks, Dee.

I will do that also. I think I'm finally understanding it. Math isn't my strong point! lol
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I see that they market some boswellia online.
I wonder what the difference is between one made at a compounding pharmacy and one sold at a HFS?


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Dee,

From the first reference that I cited above, supposedly a product called 5-LOXIN would be the "best" choice, since it is concentrated, to make it about 77% as effective as ibuprofen, without any of the side effects of ibuprofen.
Several years ago, researchers developed methods to prepare a compound with concentrations of AKBA greater than 30%. The resulting product has been found to be safe and well-tolerated. This product is patented and trademarked under the name 5-LOXIN. To date, 5-LOXIN inhibits 5-LOX more effectively than the highest quality boswellia formulations. In studies 5-LOXN produced a 27 percent reduction in inflammation compared to 35 percent with ibuprofen that was free of the side effects associated with ibuprofen and other NSAIDs.
Interestingly, they seem to be advertising that product to promote good joint health, rather than for any of the other potential uses.

http://www.plthomas.com/PLTbrands/5loxinmain.htm

That's not to say that there might not be a better formulation on the market by now, of course.

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Okay, I just ordered a bottle of this stuff: NSI 5-Loxin®-AKBA Boswellia Serrata Extract -- 150 mg per serving -120 Capsules

We'll see if I can find any uses for it. I'm in remission, so I won't be able to test it on MC issues, but since I have arthritis, I should be able to see some effect there, (if it works). I'd like to test it as a painkiller, also, so maybe rather than taking it every day for joint health, I'll just wait until I get a headache or some other pain, and test it out for that, first.

What the heck - we'll get this show on the road. LOL.

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Oh goodie!

Here Tex goes again volunteering to be our guinea pig. This is great! :grin: I'll be very interested to hear about your findings/impressions. I think you are like me in that Tylenol doesn't help you much as a pain reliever - so I'll be especially interested in what you find out. Now let's just hope the prep does not contain any gluten or casein. :roll: I'll stay tuned with baited breath!

Re vitamin D......don't forget to get D3 (cholecalciferol) and not D2!

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Polly,

I checked the inactive ingredients before I placed the order, and they're:

Other Ingredients: Kosher gelatin (capsule), rice flour, silicon dioxide and magnesium stearate.

That looks OK to me, (though the sand doesn't strike me as particularly appealing, LOL).

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