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had to go on cirpro..please help!

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Hi
got a UTI and doc put me on cipro today. I took it about an hour ago and the cramping is insane! Is this aggravating the MC?? I have been ok since Feb 10 with no diarrhea..but the cramping now is tough..just wondering if its the cipro..
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Hi Bren,

I can only give you what little info I have. On the Main Message Board there was discussion about cipro and it appears from that thread that it is the one to cause the least side effects. I know others have found a way to actually post the tread in a message, but I haven't figured out how to do that. The author was JLH and the subject was along the lines of "I did a bad bad thing (or two)".

Hopefully Tex will spot this message and give you more sage advise.

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Post by Dee »

Hi Bren!
Hoping to hear that your cramping has subsided.... :hug1:
It's bad enuf having a UTI .....
I have taken Cipro for UTI's and I've never had any side effects from it at all.
As a matter of fact, it's the only antibiotic that I can tolerate.
I know I've had some serious UTI's and the pain from them felt like cramps but only worse.
I remember saying that I'd rather have a baby than have that pain!!
Let us know how you're doing, if you feel up to it!!

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Hi Brenda,

As Jan and Dee said, for most of us, Ciprofloxocin is generally the "safest" antibiotic that we can take. In fact, for many/most of us, it will bring temporary remission, if we are having a flare when we take it. Unfortunately, though, we are all different in our reactions to various meds, so it's not impossible that it could trigger an MC reaction. Just about anything seems possible, with MC. Also, there is a slight possibility that you might be allergic to it.

I believe this is the thread that Jan mentioned:

http://www.perskyfarms.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=9488

Also, be aware that the fluoroquinolones, including Cipro, are associated with an increased risk of tendinitis and tendon rupture. This adverse reaction most frequently involves the Achilles tendon, but tendinitis and tendon rupture in the shoulder, the hand, the biceps, the thumb, and other tendon sites have also been reported. The risk of developing fluoroquinolone-associated tendinitis and tendon rupture is further increased if you are taking a corticosteroid drug, (such as Entocort). If you are an athlete, (especially, a body-builder, or a runner), at the first sign of tendinitis or a tendon rupture, stop what you are doing immediately, and contact your doctor.

The same day that your antibiotic treatment ends, it would probably be a very good idea to begin taking a good probiotic, and continue taking it for at least a couple of weeks, in order to minimize the risk of developing a C. diff infection. The risk of developing a C. diff infection is not nearly as great with Cipro as it is with other antibiotics, but there is still a small to moderate chance, so a probiotic is good insurance, to help minimize that possibility.

I hope that your cramps have subsided by now, (as Dee said, they could be associated with the UTI), but if they are getting worse, instead of better, you might need to contact your doctor, just in case you are intolerant of the floroquinolone family of antibiotics.

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HMMMM. My pharm told me to take the Flora Q 2 between my morning and night dosages of antibiotic......
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Joan,

Taking a probiotic while taking an antibiotic shouldn't hurt anything, but I'm not sure if that will provide much benefit, since the antibiotic will almost surely kill all the bacteria in the probiotic, anyway, especially since those bacteria will be the weakest in the system. Still, I can't say that the probiotic bacteria won't help to provide a little extra competition that might help to keep "bad bacteria" from becoming established, in case some of the "bad bacteria" are resistant to the antibiotic being used.

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hi
well thank you for getting back to me! the dr called yesterday and switched me over to augmenten..(sp) and I have that for 7 days.
not sure if that will cause any side effects. feeling ok I guess..the cramping has gone..
its funny because I have been pretty much in remission since feb 10th and now I find Im more constipated than anything. I am not on any meds for MC and have gone into remission with diet alone. I have eaten a great diet of fish, chicken, turkey, no red meat and no dairy at all. I have gone done to 122lbs but feel great and healthier. I lost 15lbs from the MC
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Brenda,

I'm glad that the cramping is gone, but please be aware that augmentin, (Amoxicillin Clavulanate), has the absolute worst record for causing pseudomembranous colitis, (due to C. diff infections). Please be sure to begin taking a good probiotic, (and plenty of it), as your augmentin treatment comes to an end, because the risk of developing a C. diff infection, following treatment with augmentin, is rather significant, unfortunately.

That's good news that the diet has been working so well for you. I hope it continues to do the job.

Thanks for the update,
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hi Tex..just curious, why are chances good developing c diff on augmentin?? I will have to read what causes c diff..
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Apparently, Augmentin does a more thorough job of killing off the beneficial bacteria in the gut, when compared with other antibiotics, because statistically, it has the worst record for causing pseudomembranous colitis, (which is due to the toxins produced by C. diff bacteria), of any of the commonly-used antibiotics.

http://www.perskyfarms.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=870

Here is a reference on that:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3993509

The problem develops when antibiotics are used, which efficiently kill the beneficial gut bacteria, when antibiotic-resistant C. diff bacteria are also present, (or, when C. diff bacteria are ingested before beneficial bacteria are able to repopulate the gut). Without the competition normally provided by the beneficial bacteria, the C. diff bacteria are allowed to multiply, and they can dominate the population in the gut, and cause a classic C. diff infection.

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thanks for that info..I will keep my fingers crossed that nothing will come of it!
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You're most welcome. I also certainly hope that you don't have any problems with C. diff. I have no idea, statistically, what the odds are, but hopefully, the odds are in your favor, and nothing adverse will happen.

Sometimes we just have to take our treatments, and hope for the best. Good luck with this.

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