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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:27 pm    Post subject: A Cold....sure puts a wrench in things Reply with quote

I've learned that the only thing I can tolerate while my nose and body are on high alert is my coffee (because it is warm liquid and feels good on my throat) and the bone broth soup and deli turkey everything else isn't appealing.

I suppose protein, protein, protein!!!

I am also taking 30,000 VitD3 in the morning and another 20,000 iu in the evening along with the 200mg of magnesium plus 50mg Zinc, I have been doing this for 4-5 days now...I feel it does help and my cold symptoms aren't as bad as they could be....

I had the gradual muscle aches come on over a period of 3-4 days, and then yesterday it was the all out drippy blowing nose, and today is the lightheadedness, but no drippy nose....that's progress...what would really have been nice is to of not gotten any virus at all!

Since I keep a calendar of events associated with MC, I noticed that I got the FLU this time last year...so I suspect a cold is a positive step up from getting that Wink I am hoping that my immune system keeps getting stronger, whether it will ever completely keep viruses away I suspect not.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Erica,

Sorry about the cold, but that's so much better than catching the flu. And it sounds like you are doing the right things that should minimize the severity and duration of that cold. I hope that you can continue to avoid the flue.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for the encouraging words Tex....I hate not feeling well.

Question....is it true or not that when one is exposed to a virus that if it or a variation of it came around again the body has a better potential to fighting it off as compared to not catching a virus for a really long time?

I’ve heard of a small few getting a cold twice in a row! I surely don’t want that....is it proactive to continue the VitD protocol a few days after feeling well again?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as I'm aware, it's generally true that you will have resistance to the particular strain that you previously dealt with. The problem is, as you pointed out, viruses continue to mutate, and since their life cycle is so short, they tend to mutate relatively rapidly. Our resistance is lowered somewhat with each mutation. So after numerous generations of mutations they may appear to the immune system as a "new" species. And there can be several generations making the rounds at the same time.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crossing fingers I can stay away from other mutants.

How about the VitD protocol....advise for or not necessary at this point?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A therapeutic dose of vitamin D is pretty stiff — about 2,000 IU per kg of body weight. Anything significantly less is a supplemental dose rather than a therapeutic dose. Personally, I only consider the use of a therapeutic dose when I suspect that I might be coming down with a bird flu strain or something equally dangerous. But keeping one's vitamin D level in the upper part of the "normal" range (40-100 ng/ml) is certainly helpful.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok....thank you Tex,

I wish I knew if I was the dna type that needed higher than normal VitD levels in order for my immune system to fend off “stuff” ....perhaps my current levels being at 83 are sufficient, I don’t know. They should be good enough, but one can wonder if there is anything that could be good enough to keep virus at bay.

I know we are not a dog or cat, but using them as examples what’s in their makeup that a virus doesn’t consider them a host?

I feel as though I can count on getting some form of mutant virus every February.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dogs and cats do get viruses. Parvo is a virus. So is rabies, and I assume that distemper and a bunch of other canine and feline diseases are also.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess what I was trying to get at is.....dogs and cats get vaccines just like humans do....but I don't see them getting sniffles and respiratory issues like humans do...so I'm wondering what the dna difference is that helps them basically be immune to our cold virus or flu virus....

I know this is pretty deep and I probably should be researching the web, lol....

Thanks for sticking with me on this topic Tex....you are a busy guy, and I've just gone on a tangent!
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, on this forum, any topic is fair game.

Every species has it's own strains of viruses and various diseases to which it is vulnerable, and when those viruses cross over to other species, they seldom have the same level of potency from one species to another.

That said, we used to have a lot of cats on the farm, some relatively domesticated, some wild, and some in between. Before the bobcats exterminated them about 10 years ago, just about every generation of kittens would go through a distemper epidemic where many of them would get distemper or some other virus. Likely this was because the virus was almost always available in their environment. Raccoons are susceptible to both canine and feline distemper, and if the wild cats didn't keep the virus going, the raccoons would.

If your pets are isolated from such exposures, then they are far less likely to get sick.

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by 15cents worth...
animals are not impacted by nutritional deficiencies and toxins to the same extent that humans are -
the impact of epigenics on our bodies (and DNA) in the past 50 years is what is impacting the health of humans.

remember Erica, there are populations of people in remote countries, that do not have mainstream health issues like heart disease, IBS, diabetes, autoimmune issues, and do not get vaccines. that is because they live in low toxin lifestyle, they are eating foods that are local, and have been consumed for hundreds of years.
they dont have takeaway foods, processed foods, excess sugar, or flavours from international countries etc

further - many of these populations live in a society where you pay the tribal 'doctor' a fee when you are well, and stop paying when you are sick.
their income and wellbeing is based on keeping the village healthy!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fascinating Gabes...I honestly didn't know that aspect of a society...to stop paying when you are sick....the mentality would be so much different here if that was how we approached it in the US, wouldn't it.

Oh, it is sooo hard to unlearn everything that has been taught to me over a 50 year span.....I'm going to die and know so much but not be able to pass it on accordingly, because it takes TIME...seriously there is so much to experiment and stop doing in order to know everything...and then there are things that have been experimented but the mainstream media has decided to not continue to keep getting the word out so that those that have not heard it can keep hearing it....but then the MSM does a good job lieing and only telling their side of things too....

I just want to live healthy...our USA is so young in comparison to other countries....like I said, I'm going to die knowing really good stuff....I'm so glad Tex is actually doing something about it and writing his books Very Happy

I don't like fads, have never followed them, wondered at one point if they actually held any truth to them, found out I only hurt myself investigating them (ie: colon cleanse - does not do a body good...in fact it does the opposite! Do not believe your colon needs to be cleansed EVER)....Now there are too many things out on the market, curiosity kills the cat and my gut too! I wish I paid more attention to my great grands when they were milking cows, or butchering meat....society makes things so expensive to keep a home running that people can't create from home and live off the land anymore.... I know I can't keep up my country home and do everything it takes to make it run without having lots of kids or farm hands, which I have none of now Sad Even growing a garden takes TIME, time I don't seem to have if I work outside the home and have to rely on someone else's Mega farm to sustain me....There is so much to say on this topic....
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Erica,

You are so right. Life is so fast-paced these days that we tend to lose track of time. We settle into our routine and try to squeeze in everything we want or need to do, and first thing we know, we're old. Shocked

During previous generations, only select individuals (who thought they had something to say) did much writing. So our ancestors learned from a select group of individuals. They learned from their parents, their grandparents, and a few famous writers. These days, with the convenience of the Internet and social media, everyone tries to learn from everyone else, and everyone is overwhelmed with information. Some of it's accurate, much of it's irrelevant, and some of it is just plain incorrect.

Writing takes a lot of time, and it's finally dawning on me that I'm running out of time. But I'm working on a book (which I hope will be short, so that I can finish it soon), that will be right up your alley (I think). It's called From Einkorn Wheat to GMO — The Evolution of Genetics in Agricultural Crops.

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So the reality is that humans can certainly subsist on a vegan diet, or some version of the modern Western diet of today. But we would have never been able to develop our relatively big brains and rise to the top of the food chain if we had been restricted to those kinds of diets during our evolution. Without a meat-based diet during our development, we would be just another primate species today, provided that we would have been able to compete well enough to maintain territorial rights on this planet. It's more likely that we wouldn't have been able to compete with other species, and we wouldn't have survived as a species. After all, out of all the species that have ever lived on this planet, approximately 99 % are now extinct.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will be very interested in what you have researched in your next book....lord knows no one that raises wheat will have a conversation with me about their farm or whether or not they feel anything about their 'wheat' has been modified over time....I don't think they know...I'm sure some care...but it's too complex of a topic for most to comprehend.

I love the beauty the wheat fields produce around here, but now I often wonder if there is some toxicity that emerges from it at every growing cycle. I'll never be able to 'fix' what has gone wrong, nor will I ever be able to get it into anyone's head that wheat is becoming more like that apple...your body can only deal with a small portion of it and remove it daily, but not when the body is flooded with gluten almost non stop all day because it seems wheat or gluten is in EVERYTHING including little candies or that soup that should only be bone broth, but Nooo it contains gluten why IDK!!!

I get perturbed really fast when simple ingredient items that have no need for wheat to be in them will contain it, just like soy, that one annoys me too. I'm also learning real fast that I don't need a lot of things I once thought were treats....it's amazing how much my small country kitchen holds my current eating style just fine these days. I used to yearn for a pantry....but now I can have a small area and be just fine and I still have room left over Wink My freezer gets the biggest workout, lol.

Keep dishing those books out Tex....I hold onto important books and I will make sure I show them to my grand kids when they are ready one day!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Erica,
sadly developed countries are making themselves sick (?accelerating death) with work environments, home environments, food, activities, etc.
too many medications, too many toxins.

referring back to the post i put up a few weeks ago about remarkable remission and healing - the core elements that allowed people to heal 7/9 were related to the mental/emotional aspects - meditation, relaxation, values, beliefs, etc.

hope you are feeling better, rest and give the body a chance to heal
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