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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:23 am    Post subject: Enterolab results - what can I eat?? Reply with quote

Wow - I am shocked at what foods I am sensitive to, what the heck can I eat?

Food to which there was some immunological reactivity (1+):
Corn
Rice
Chicken
Pork
Beef
Almond
Cashew
Walnut
White potato

Food to which there was moderate immunological reactivity (2+):
Oat
Tuna

Food to which there was significant and/or the most immunological reactivity (3+):
None

Grains:
Grain toward which you displayed the most immunologic reactivity: Oat
Grain toward which you displayed intermediate immunologic reactivity: Corn
Grain toward which you displayed the least immunologic reactivity: Rice

Meats:
Meat toward which you displayed the most immunologic reactivity: Tuna
Meat toward which you were next most immunologically reactive: Chicken
Meat toward which you displayed intermediate immunologic reactivity: Pork
Meat toward which you displayed the least immunologic reactivity: Beef

Nuts:
Nut toward which you displayed the most immunologic reactivity: Almond
Nut toward which you displayed intermediate immunologic reactivity: Cashew
Nut toward which you displayed the least immunologic reactivity: Walnut

Nightshades:
You displayed immunologic reactivity to white potato, the member of the nightshade family usually consumed most often and in greatest quantities. While this does not necessarily mean you would react to all other nightshade foods (tomatoes, peppers, eggplant), it is possible. In the realm of elimination diets for immunologic disorders, nightshades are usually eliminated as the entire food class (i.e., all four previously mentioned foods in this class). This is especially important to the clinical setting of arthritis.

Quantitative Microscopic Fecal Fat Score 930 Units (Normal Range is less than 300 Units)

Fecal Anti-gliadin IgA 171 Units (Normal Range is less than 10 Units)

Fecal Anti-casein (cows milk) IgA 27 Units (Normal Range is less than 10 Units)

Fecal Anti-ovalbumin (chicken egg) IgA 15 Units (Normal Range is less than 10 Units)

Fecal Anti-soy IgA 27 Units (Normal Range is less than 10 Units)

Mean Value # Antigenic Foods 19 Units (Normal Range is less than 10 Units)

Mean Value 11 Antigenic Foods 19 Units (Normal Range is less than 10 Units)
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Food Intolerances : Gluten, casein, soy, and avenin, (avenin is the prolamin in oats, which is equivalent to the gluten in wheat), beef, grapes, peanuts, cashews, almonds, (but nut butters seem OK except for peanuts), citric acid, chocolate, and agar.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, I see soy is out, so disregard my suggestion to try soy flour in my response to your other post. With a fecal fat score that high, you are probably a celiac, and gluten is probably your main problem, so you have to be especially careful to avoid gluten 100 %. You have probably been reacting to gluten for some time to have accrued that much small intestinal damage (as indicated by your fecal fat score). Turkey and lamb, venison, duck, goose, quail, and other wild type animals are probably safe protein options. Unless you are otherwise allergic to them, shellfish, including shrimp, oysters, clams, etc., should be safe. You might be able to tolerate red or yellow potatoes (especially if you don't eat them every day). Sweet potatoes (yams) may be an option. Small portions of overcooked vegetables such as carrots, squash, green beans, and cauliflower should be OK. Raw bananas should be OK, but all other vegetables and fruit should be over-cooked. Fruit should be either minimized in the diet or avoided due to the fiber and fructose content.

I hope this helps.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I'm gluten sensitive, why isn't wheat listed in the grain list? Because corn, oat and rice are all eaten on a gf diet. Because my results tell me I can't have these grains, what exactly then can I have on a gf diet? I can have peanut butter? Seeds, well cooked veggies, the meat you mentioned, salmon? I can't have gf bread because they are made with eggs, oat flour, almond flour, cornmeal, rice flower...so when a gf diet is recommended, it's not true really because of my sensitivity to the gf grains. What about the occasional wine, I love a piece of dark chocolate every once in awhile. This is going to be so hard.
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Food Intolerances : Gluten, dairy, eggs, soy
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alternative meats (as Tex mentioned) and over cooked veggies should be your staples until your system calms downs a bit.
You might be able to get away with using rice flour and coconut flour.
I found out that I do better without grains, so I bake with coconut flour, cassava flour, & plantain four.
I wouldnt drink alcohol for now.
You could have a little treat of dark chocolate occasionally, but be sure its soy free. Most chocolate has soy.
I use carob powder because its caffeine free, and has lots of antioxidants.

I remember being where you are, and it is overwhelming! But, take it one day and a time, and it will get better. Be patient....it does take a long time for your body to heal after the offending foods have been removed.
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Food Intolerances : Gluten, casein, soy, and avenin, (avenin is the prolamin in oats, which is equivalent to the gluten in wheat), beef, grapes, peanuts, cashews, almonds, (but nut butters seem OK except for peanuts), citric acid, chocolate, and agar.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

K,

It's pointless to list wheat, because if you are gluten-sensitive, you're automatically sensitive to wheat, barley, rye, spelt, and all of their close relatives. Peanuts are a legume. If you are sensitive to soy, you're also going to be sensitive to most legumes. Usually (though not necessarily always), if you're sensitive to tuna, you're going to be sensitive to salmon.

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Food Intolerances : gluten, dairy, soy, corn, sugar, quinoa, rasberries, blackberries
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can eat some of your plus 1's but you want to mimimize your servings of these. If you are having WD 10 times per day I would avoid your plus 1's. If you have solid stool you can eat some plus 1's.

Sweet potato, carrots, turnips rutabagas, beets, etc.

Way down the road you can eat some of the GF products. Wait until you are good and healed.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 12:27 pm    Post subject: Vegetables, seeds Reply with quote

My main symptom with LC for me has always been constipation not diarrhea. With my lab results, can I still have salads or do I need to be eating over cooked vegetables? I'm just curious. Also, what about pumpkin seeds or any other type of seeds to eat as a snack?
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Food Intolerances : Gluten, Dairy, Eggs, Soy, Tuna, Beef, Oat, Almonds, Walnuts
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HI Kberry,

I would increase my Elemental Magnesium and that will positively help with the constipation part of MC....in fact it is easier to increase the Mag for constipation than to take a certain amount so the WD doesn't increase for a lot of us.

Also I would overcook my veges, and a salad may be fine for you, just remember to be careful with fiber so that it doesn't keep rubbing the intestines and causing more inflammation. Seeds...most of us with MC can't digest them very well so you be the judge, if you see remnants in the toilet then perhaps they aren't a good choice at this time. If you can tolerate a corn chip, rice cracker/chip or potato chip that may be an idea until you come across something that works better for you as a snack.
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Food Intolerances : Gluten, Yeast, Caesin, Soy, salad/raw veges and fruit
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lots of things!!!

safe veges, safe proteins, lots of yummy options

things like paleo muffins with safe veges/meats based on coconut flour or other safe flours
protein is key for good gut healing - the various nutrients, amino acids, animal fats are crucial to gut healing process

ensure you have good proteins every meal.

if you have good serves of protein each meal, you wont be hungry inbetween and looking for carb loaded snacks.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

loads of good options in the meal suggestions area
http://www.perskyfarms.com/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=53
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:17 pm    Post subject: Major histamine issues Reply with quote

I have had hives and swollen glands on my head face and base of my head for 3 days straight now. I've been getting these on and off but never this long. I ate salmon Sunday night, which I shouldn't have bc it was thawed too long on the counter...I'm confident this is what triggered the hives and swollen glands. I happened to have a Dr appointment with my gp the following day and she said it definitely from histamine from the salmon and she told me to get a anti histamine like Claritin. I've been taking it for 3 days and I still itch and omg glands are still swollen. Oh and I've had chronic face acne for months I don't feel the Claritin is doing anything to help me I am currently taking 137mg of levothyroxine bc I had a total thyroidectomy in 2016. I also take a anti depressants called Effexor)300mh$ a day). Supplements I take are as follows; drama dr best high absorption magnesium (4 tablets, 2 in am amd 2 in pm), Dr best vitamin C, 500mg (1 a day), turmeric supreme, curcumen synergy by Gaia, and vitamin d3 (1 a say$. I'm not sure what my dosage is tho. My go recommended I take vsl3 as a probiotic.

Monday my meals were ground turkey for each meal with frozen broccoli, cauliflower and carrots with some riced cauliflower. I made the turkey into a Pattie and cooked in coconut oil and seasoned with ground Mediterranean Sea salt and ground pepper, these are both in grinders.

Tuesday I thought of having a smoothie for breakfast made with coconut milk, banana, coconut oil, turmeric, ginger, cinnamon and mango. For lunch and dinner I had the same turkey burger and veggies made the same way with coconut oil.

Today I had a smoothie for breakfast with Hershey unsweetened cocoa powder, banana, maple syrup and vanilla extract.

Yesterday I had the time so I made a batch of ginger candy, made with pieces of ginger, coconut sugar and coconut milk sprinkles with pecans. I haven't had any yet nut I thought it was a good option for something sweet. I also made a batch of no bake cookies made with the Hershey's cocoa powder (it states its gluten free), coconut milk and unsweetened coconut flakes. I made the cookies a small as a quarter size, I had one and put the rest In the fridge. I bought a cantaloupe Sunday and I cut it open Tuesday for something refreshing after my lunch, I ate some but I think it may have been
Over ripe..and as you can see from my first post there isn't much I can eat so I'm trying very hard to be creative but I think I may be making things worse... any advice? Thank you I'm
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are there any other supplements I should take or remove some!
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Food Intolerances : Gluten, casein, soy, and avenin, (avenin is the prolamin in oats, which is equivalent to the gluten in wheat), beef, grapes, peanuts, cashews, almonds, (but nut butters seem OK except for peanuts), citric acid, chocolate, and agar.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Claritin didn't seem to do much for me either, so I switched to Allegra. Or you may have to use a double or triple dose in severe cases.

I had a lot of trouble with swollen lymph glands when I was reacting too, especially those under the back of my jaws. I also had TMJ when my reactions were really severe I could barely open my jaws wide enough to slip a spoonful of soup between them on the bad days.

Are you sensitive to ragweed pollen? If so, it's not a certainty, but it's very possible that you may cross-react with bananas and melons. Here's quote from the book about cross-reactivity:

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Cross-reactivity may be a problem for some people.
The American Academy of Allergy, Asthma, & Immunology defines cross-reactivity thusly, "Cross-reactivity in allergic reactions occurs when the proteins in one substance (typically pollen) are similar to the proteins found in another substance (typically a food) (The American Academy of Allergy, Asthma & Immunology)."78 Cross-reactivity can lead to food reactions according to certain patterns. For example, if one is allergic to birch pollen, then one may also react to apples, carrots, celery, hazelnuts, peaches, pears, and raw potatoes (Mayo Clinic staff, 2017).79 In a similar fashion, ragweed pollen sensitivity can make one also react to bananas and melons, such as cantaloupe, honeydew, and watermelon. An allergy to grass pollen can also make one sensitive to melons, oranges, peanuts,tomatoes, and white potato. And an allergy to mugwort pollen can cause cross-reactivity with apples, bell peppers, carrots, celery, garlic, onion, and certain spices such as caraway seeds, parsley, coriander, anise seeds, and fennel seeds.


Here are references 78 and 79:

78. Cross-reactivity. (n.d.). The American Academy of Allergy, Asthma & Immunology. Retrieved from https://www.aaaai.org/conditions-and-treatments/.../cross-reactivity

79. Mayo Clinic staff. (2017). Food allergy Mayo Foundation for Medical Education and Researc.h Retrieved from http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/f...uses/dxc-20317255

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you Tex. I don't have any allergies that I know of other than the gluten and the foods mentioned in the lab results. I believe you or someone mentioned using Chlor-Trimeton as a anti histamine. Do you think this would help me more than Allegra? And what about D3 and the dosage of that! Do you think I'm taking too much magnesium or not enough? I've never had the classic diarrhea but I have constipation. Is the diet I mentioned above good or no! I'm at a loss
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Food Intolerances : Gluten, casein, soy, and avenin, (avenin is the prolamin in oats, which is equivalent to the gluten in wheat), beef, grapes, peanuts, cashews, almonds, (but nut butters seem OK except for peanuts), citric acid, chocolate, and agar.
Location: Central Texas

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Your diet and supplements generally look OK. You may just need more healing time, but the histamine reactions need to be controlled or prevented because they will keep the inflammation level elevated, which prevents healing. It's possible that the Effexor is a problem. It triggers MC for some people.

Yes, Chlor-Trimeton generally works better than most newer antihistamines, but the problem is that it also has anticholinergic properties, meaning that it may possibility increase the risk of developing age-related dementia or Alzheimer's, after extended use.

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